Ryan Schmidt <[email protected]> writes:

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> At the moment it's the lack of Trac's functionality to browse the tree
>>>> and the logs that has triggered the "demand" for this.
>>> 
>>> That will get fixed. In asking about github, we're just trying to explore 
>>> all options.
>> 
>> I hope so at least. But until this gets fixed (and it might take a
>> while before it does), it would be extremely helpful to have an
>> up-to-date git mirror to be able to browse through the changes in a
>> slightly more "user-friendly" way than with the command-line only.
>> 
>> I could use
>>    https://github.com/neverpanic/macports-ports
>> now that you mentioned it, but that one is also not being synced
>> automatically (yet).
>> 
>> Clemens, are you willing to set up some (temporary) repository with
>> regular updates, even if it's not perfect yet, just so that we can
>> follow the changes? (I can offer to run a script for incremental
>> updates on my server if there is a need for that.)
>
> We will get the existing infrastructure back up and running soon. Please bear 
> with us a little while longer.
>
>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Sean Farley wrote:
>>> Clemens Lang writes:
>>> 
>>>> [1] https://github.com/neverpanic?tab=repositories
>>>> [2] https://github.com/neverpanic/svn2git
>>>> [3] https://github.com/neverpanic/macports-svn2git-rules
>>> 
>>> Sounds like this is a lost cause for me, but for what it's worth, I work
>>> at Bitbucket now and we could offer hosting (plus direct admin support).
>> 
>> What exactly do you consider "lost" and why?
>
> Good to know, Sean, and thanks for the offer. Would that refer only to the 
> usual services that BitBucket offers, or additional services as well? Mac OS 
> Forge currently provides us much more than just repository, issue tracker and 
> wiki.

Sure, it could include Jira, HipChat, and Bamboo, if you want. I only
said 'lost cause' because GitHub is so popular for open source projects.

>> At the moment we are (hopefully) discussing just a mirror of the code
>> being put on some server, still hoping that everything will get back
>> to normal. This mirroring can be done on any of the existing services
>> (github, bitbucket, gitlab, ...) or even on all of them at the same
>> time.
>> 
>> Mojca
>> 
>> (Off-topic, but: If we were discussing other services, the biggest
>> problem would probably be all the buildbots anyway, and I doubt that
>> BitBucket would be interested in helping out with that. Purchasing the
>> necessary hardware alone would be expensive enough. We currently have
>> 10 virtual machines and we could easily request 5 or more right now
>> [two for 10.11, three for libc++ on 10.6-10.8, potentially another
>> bunch of them for universal binaries] and two new ones each year after
>> the release of a new OS. All of that has to run on Macs with
>> sufficient memory, disk space and potentially more than one core per
>> buildbot.)

We have the Bamboo service which integrates with Bitbucket and we can
set up for open source projects. I can do it personally so as to skip
the form filling out.

> There are currently six buildbot slave VMs, five of which run OS X (Snow 
> Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite) and run two buildbot 
> builders each -- one for ports, one for base -- and one which runs Oracle 
> Linux with a single buildbot builder for base. A seventh VM has been 
> requested for El Capitan and I've been told that should be a resource 
> problem, it's just a matter of setting it up, which will happen soon.
>
> Hardware for a replacement buildbot system is not a problem, if that becomes 
> necessary.

Bamboo just spins up Amazon vms but having these dedicated machines from
MacOSForge is pretty nice.
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