On Feb 3, 2021, at 01:29, Ken Cunningham wrote:

> On Feb 2, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> I consider the buildbot a "nice to have". It makes life easier by 
>> precompiling things but it is not essential. When something is not available 
>> precompiled, MacPorts builds from source. If something doesn't build 
>> correctly from source, let's fix that.
> 
> OK — for users out there, then, we should begin to make it clear that 
> building +universal on a BigSur Intel machine is not going to work out for a 
> number of ports, and although they might find some ports can build universal 
> on BigSur Intel, for comprehensive +universal support, they should expect to 
> use BigSur arm64.
> 
> That is fine with me — IMHO nobody should really be putting anything out that 
> hasn’t been actually tried on an actual BigSur arm64 machine anyway.
> 
> But should be clear to people what to expect.

I'm not aware of this "number of ports". The number of ports that both use the 
muniversal portgroup and need to run something they built should hopefully be 
small. For each one, I recommend trying to fix it as I outlined previously.

I wouldn't embark on a campaign of seeding users with the idea that advertised 
MacPorts features don't work. Instead, as always, I would recommend that users 
file bug reports when they find anything that doesn't work, and then we can fix 
those issues. For the situation you're talking about, that could include fixing 
or (conditionally?) disabling the universal variant.

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