But that’s not what HE said. He disagreed with you. For myself, I don’t need reasons not to use Homebrew. I’d need reasons TO use Homebrew.
MacPorts does what I want in the way that I want it. What else does it need to do? -- Marc Wilson [email protected] On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Michele Venturi wrote: > That's what I said, no coherence or coordination. > So what are your reasons to not use HomeBrew? > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 22:40 Jim DeLaHunt <[email protected] > <mailto:list%[email protected]>> wrote: >> Hello, Jordan: >> >> Welcome (back to) MacPorts! >> >> I am nobody official with the project. I just try to make contributions >> to a few ports and documentation pages where I can. But in this project, >> lots of people contribute, each in their own way. >> >> On 2022-06-11 07:07, Jordan via macports-dev wrote: >> > Hi friends, >> > >> > >> > First of all thank you for your work! I use MacPorts exclusively for a >> > few different reasons and am looking to contribute to the project.... >> >> I for one would be glad to have your contributions. >> >> > There is one aspect of MacPorts that has me a little down in the dumps >> > and that's is its _apparent_ (but likely not true) neglected state. I >> > think it's perhaps under maintained currently due to a lack of >> > people-power? I say so because I'd love to see more people using >> > MacPorts so I wonder if there's any "modernisation" (for lack of a >> > better word) to be had here? ... so perhaps some usage compared to >> > things like Homebrew can be gained back since I'd love to see this >> > project used more. >> >> I think it is not fair to say MacPorts overall is in a neglected state. >> Its core purpose is to help people compile a wide range of freely >> available software on the macOS platform. As part of that it helps >> gather the related software needed to make the requested software work. >> I think that this aspect of MacPorts works very well. It gets a lot of >> care and attention. There is a lot of activity. For instance, I just >> moved onto an M1 Mac, and I see a lot of support for compiling software >> with the M1 CPU's architecture. That is the opposite of neglect. >> >> Now, certain aspects of the project are neglected. You mention the >> timeline on Trac. That's a page of documentation. >> >> When you say "modernisation", I think you mean, changes to how MacPorts >> work to make it easier or better for some audience. I think that is best >> approached as a collection of small projects, each with a specific >> understanding of a problem, and its own goal for an improvement. One way >> to proceed is to start a macPorts-dev thread for each of these ideas >> (and each with a different Subject: line, please). >> >> You mention believing that `sudo` probably scares new users. Maybe so, >> maybe not. A first step is to gather some evidence whether this is true. >> A next step is to figure out why the port tool requires use of `sudo`. A >> third step is to figure out what alternative way the port tool could >> work which does not require `sudo`. For my part, use of `sudo` is no >> problem at all. MacPorts is a command-line tool for system maintenance. >> I am used to system maintenance tools requiring administrator passwords. >> `sudo` is a command-line way of requiring a password. >> >> I will also say that competing with Homebrew about which project has >> more users is not very interesting to me. Homebrew works well for some >> people. MacPorts works well for some people. I'm interested in helping >> MacPorts be the best MacPorts it can be. If Homebrew ends up with more >> users, that is no big deal to me. >> >> > Also, as a tacked-on issue I am working on... >> >> I suggest you start a separate email thread for each issue. If you try >> to discuss deleting files on uninstall as part of a thread with the >> Subject: of "MacPorts status", which was originally about your offer to >> help, I suspect you will lose a lot of readers. >> >> Anyhow, I look forward to seeing you in the email list, and in the trac >> tickets, and in the Pull Requests! Glad to have your help. >> >> Best regards, >> —-Jim "just another MacPorts user/contributor" DeLaHunt >>
