Well spoken, Jordan! On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_knot) > Having just read jmpp's request for "a bit more time" to sort out a voting > process, I must confess to feeling more trepidation than assurance. To be > completely fair, he does note several times that he and the rest of the > moribund portmgr team would like to move quickly, but given the degree to > which that group has also demonstrated itself to be overworked and less than > involved in the day to day affairs of MacPorts, anything which delays a > solution also runs the risk of blunting some of the current enthusiasm > should said "process" end up dragging out longer than anticipated (which, as > experience amply suggests, it invariably does) and I honestly don't think we > can afford that at this late stage. > I would therefore like to suggest that we simply ratify the following list > rather than dragging out a lengthy "voting" process for a set of positions > which, from a certain angle, might even be viewed as largely ceremonial > since there is no real "power" afforded by membership in the portmgr team. > Volunteers will always choose to follow (or not) such a group on the basis > of the credibility of its individual members rather than any fancy paper > hats they may be wearing, and the sooner we simply slam those hats on some > credible heads and say "Thank you! Get started!", the sooner we can all get > back to discussing the real question of how to get to where we need to go > next. > As a courtesy to the outgoing portmgr team, I would also be perfectly happy > to see them be the official "ratifiers" of this new team, assuming it passes > their sniff test and they're also willing to do so in the next day or two, > otherwise I would be just as happy with a statement along the lines of "if > there are no significant, well-argued objections in the next 72 hours, > they're it! Quick, before they change their minds!" :-) > Portmgr (subject to individual acceptance, of course - we still haven't > heard from two of the four): > Ryan Schmidt > Bryan Blackburn > Rainer Mueller > Joshua Root > [Note: Any subset of the above would also be acceptable - 4 is not some > magic minimum number, for all the reasons I've already outlined] > Release engineering team: > Ryan Schmidt (interim or longer, if he wants it) > Julio Biason > I'm really not trying to undercut anyone here, least of all jmpp, but > seriously folks - we've been suffering from a leadership/directional vacuum > for quite some time now and I don't think we need to bog down the only > solution to be offered in quite some time by getting all constitutional > about it or saying "hey, wait, let's all think about this for awhile and > engage in lengthy discussion!" That might have been a good plan of action > about a year ago, and I would be also more than happy to see the "new > portmgr" establish a framework for elections and term limits and all the > other checks and balances that they might wish to create for future > generations, but what we need right now is an immediate "interim government" > and some long overdue action on the release engineering front. > Any objections? > - Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > macports-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users > >
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