Le 21 mars 09 à 00:52, Ryan Schmidt a écrit :

On Mar 20, 2009, at 17:53, Thomas De Contes wrote:

Le 16 mars 09 à 00:05, Ryan Schmidt a écrit :

On Mar 15, 2009, at 17:36, Thomas De Contes wrote:

i updade MacPorts, and at the step "port upgrade outdated" it always sets
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.0

whereas /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 does not exist and /usr/bin/gcc points on gcc-3.3


what is the problem ?

/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 should exist, and /usr/bin/gcc should point to it, on Tiger and later.

ok
if /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 exists but /usr/bin/gcc does not point to it, it's not right ?

If /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 exists but /usr/bin/gcc points to gcc-3.3 then you have most likely used the gcc_select program to select gcc 3.3.

i think it can happen if i install devtools + gcc-3.3, and then i add gcc-4.0 to avoid any pb of this kind, i reinstalled devtools + gcc-4.0 at the same time

This should not affect the majority of ports since MacPorts tells ports to use /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 by default on Tiger and later.

ok :-)

Specific ports may override this as needed. For example some very old software must compile with gcc-3.3 because gcc-4.0 is too new; in this case, those ports indicate this requirement and MacPorts allows them to use gcc-3.3 instead.

do you think i should keep gcc-3.3 ?
could some recent software depend on some very old software ?



What OS version do you have? What version of Xcode?

checking Mac OS X version... 10.4.11
checking Xcode version... 2.4.1



btw,

why does it work fine to build MacPorts itself, with gcc 3.3, and not to build software ?

Port authors have limited resources with which to test ports. Usually people only have a single Mac, running either Leopard or Tiger, with either an Intel or PowerPC processor. This means most port authors are only testing on 1/4 of the supported systems. Problems can crop up on the remaining 3/4 of the supported systems the author did not test on.

We do not want to increase the testing burden even further by allowing users to compile ports with a different compiler than the one the port author tested with. For this reason, MacPorts instructs ports to ignore what the user has gcc_selected'ed and instead to use a specific compiler on specific OS versions (3.3 on Panther, 4.0 on Tiger and Leopard). Individual ports can override this if it's necessary for those ports, but users are not supposed to override this.

i fully (i think) understand this :-)

and i see 2 options :

1
don't constraint anyone to use /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 and nothing else
of course, you support only /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 and nothing else, and port authors don't have any more test to make
just, you don't restrict it "physically" :-)
and you could write a big big warning at time of building MacPorts itself

2
once i've understood "the mechanism", i was surprised that building MacPorts itself worked fine, without even a warning ! i would expect that MacPorts refuse to build, saying it need /usr/bin/ gcc-4.0 (even if it doesn't need it for itself, regarding to the default settings for ports)


the 1 is the best from my point of view (it's the most "adaptable"), but there is probably a lot of changes to do, for not enough advantages
but i think that the 2 is realist, what do you think about it ? :-)


why does it say :
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
rather than sth like
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 not found
?

Here you are asking about the configure script of the port you were trying to install. For questions about why that configure script does what it does, you'll have to ask the authors of that software

ok
well, if building MacPorts itself gives an explicit error enough, not worry about building of ports :-)


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