On Apr 30, 2009, at 00:37, Scott Haneda wrote:

On Apr 29, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Chris Janton wrote:

ports is being used to maintain applications. MySQL is an application, but it's all about the data that you store and use, not the application itself.

Right, but there is at least one database by default to MySql, the permissions database, in /opt/local/var/mysql5/db Are you suggesting every user that install MySql move that elsewhere?

The databases aren't there until you run mysql_install_db5. I guess if you set your data dir to something different before you run mysql_install_db5, the permissions database should be created in that different location and you wouldn't have to move anything.

I can see that idea having value in a lot of cases, but for the casual local developer, I don't think they even need to know where the database is, or care, they are going to use a front end anyway.

I was sort of under the impression the OP was doing small local development, and feel his setup should be contained within ports, if for anything, for being on the same page as everyone else.

Being on the same page about the application, fine. Putting everything that you need in /opt/local? Not sure that's the right thing.

Why not, genuinely curious. If you mentally thin of /opt/local as / it very much has a layout very much like most other nix's, with some small differences.

There could be many reasons. You may need to reinstall MacPorts at some point -- at the latest, the next time you upgrade to a new major OS version. It may be helpful to have your data in a directory that is not inside the MacPorts prefix, since one method to uninstall MacPorts is to just delete the MacPorts prefix (though uninstalling all ports with "sudo port -f uninstall installed" could be better, and would leave your data and other unregistered files intact).

I keep my MySQL data and Subversion repository in my home directory. It may be odd to have these files there, since they're not even owned by my user, but it ensures that I will never forget to back them up, since I certainly back up my home directory. I back up my entire hard drive, in fact, but a friend of mine has more than once lost some data that was outside of his home directory when he upgraded to a new computer, which he tends to do every year. If he had had this data in his home directory, he would not have lost it during the migration. There's no way he's going to forget to copy his home directory to his new machine, but there's a good change he's going to forget random Unix directories, since he's not a Unix person, doesn't like the terminal, and unless he thought about it specifically might not even remember he had MacPorts installed at all.


Lots of "applications" let you specify how to get to the mysql data via the socket interface - you may just want to change the config file for the app...

There's a very simple way to keep your data in one place - use / etc/my.cnf to define things.

I could not find out where the ports version of mysql5 looks for my.cnf as defaults. Do you know where it is looking within the opt/local area? I do not have a cnf file at /etc or /opt/local/etc

The sample my.cnf file has this at the top...

Where did you find that sample my.cnf file?

The various sample my.cnf files are here:

$ port contents mysql5 | grep cnf
  /opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/my-huge.cnf
  /opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/my-innodb-heavy-4G.cnf
  /opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/my-large.cnf
  /opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/my-medium.cnf
  /opt/local/share/mysql5/mysql/my-small.cnf


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