On May 2, 2009, at 11:51, Thomas De Contes wrote:

Le 26 avr. 09 à 17:59, Rainer Müller a écrit :

Thomas De Contes wrote:

--->  Activating xorg-renderproto @0.9.3_0
Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: Image error: /Users/
thomas/Documents/prgm/bin/autoinstall/macports/include/X11/ extensions/
render.h is being used by the active render port.  Please deactivate
this port first, or use 'port -f activate xorg-renderproto' to force
the activation.
Error: The following dependencies failed to build: xorg-renderproto
Error: Unable to upgrade port: 1

render has been replaced by xorg-rendrproto. render has been a dummy
port for a long time and was removed afterwards. Probably you did not
upgrade in a long time and thus running into this problem.

it is probable

well, if i did upgrade when render was a dummy port, there was a mechanism to swith from render to xorg-rendrproto quietly ? :-)

While the render port was a dummy port, it installed no files. Therefore, it could not conflict with the files in the xorg- renderproto replacement port. And its revision had been incremented. And render was declared as a dependency of xorg-renderproto. Thus, for any port that depended on the new xorg-renderproto, you would first be made to upgrade render to the version that installed no files, and then xorg-renderproto would install those files.


since i have often problems when i try to upgrade, i do it only when i need it ... maybe i'm wrong ;-)

I would like for any user, regardless of how old their MacPorts installation is, to be able to use "sudo port selfupdate" and "sudo port upgrade outdated" and have it work. Unfortunately, over time, things do break. In this case, dummy ports get removed. So sometimes you will run into issues.

Upgrading more often is of course not guaranteed to cause fewer issues. If you had upgraded more recently, while the render dummy port still existed, you would not have run into this specific issue, but you might have encountered any number of other issues.


  sudo port -f uninstall render
  sudo port -v install xorg-renderproto

thank you :-)

i don't like -f very much,

Its use should be avoided and reserved for special cases. This is one such special case.


is there an option to recursively uninstall the ports that depend on it, in the same way that "port install" recursively installs the ports witch it depends on ?
(is it english ?)

There is the port_cutleaves script (for which there is a port of the same name) to help you identify ports that are installed but no longer needed. However, anything that used to depend on render will now depend on xorg-renderproto.


--->  Fetching scrollkeeper
Error: Target org.macports.fetch returned:

scrollkeeper is superseded by port rarian; use that port instead

Error: Unable to upgrade port: 1


for this one, it would be nice if MacPorts was able to uninstall it
properly itself

No, we are currently not able to decide if it is safe to uninstall this
port. Be assured if there would have been a better way to replace a
port, it would have been used :-)

ok
can't you use the same mechanism to swith from scrollkeeper to rarian, that you used for render -> xorg-rendrproto ?

It looks like scrollkeeper was changed to a no-op port which now simply outputs the message "scrollkeeper is superseded by port rarian; use that port instead".

I would have liked for the render port to have been kept around for much longer, at least 6 months, to facilitate upgrades for infrequent upgraders, but the port was removed a lot sooner, and I didn't bother to go back and reinstate it.


Rather than trying to find solutions for individual ports like this, we should come up with a global solution for renaming / superseding / deprecating ports and implement it in base.


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