Yeah, my initial response remains. Additionally, org.x.privileged_startx.plist is not relevant here since you are talking about XQuartz.app and MacPorts/X11.app. org.x corresponds to Utilities/X11.app
--Jeremy On Apr 2, 2011, at 17:47, Tommy Bollman wrote: > > > Videresendt melding: > >> Fra: Tommy Bollman <[email protected]> >> Dato: 3. april 2011 02.44.53 GMT+02.00 >> Til: asu Users <[email protected]> >> Emne: Re: MacPorts vs xquartz? (was Re: openmotif in macports dependencies >> and xquartz?) >> >> Hello. >> >> Oops I forgot to include the contents of org.x.privileged_startx.plist file >> for the sake of completedness. >> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> >> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" >> "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";> >> <plist version="1.0"> >> <dict> >> <key>EnableTransactions</key> >> <true/> >> <key>Label</key> >> <string>org.x.privileged_startx</string> >> <key>MachServices</key> >> <dict> >> <key>org.x.privileged_startx</key> >> <true/> >> </dict> >> <key>ProgramArguments</key> >> <array> >> <string>/usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/privileged_startx</string> >> <string>-d</string> >> <string>/usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/privileged_startx.d</string> >> </array> >> <key>TimeOut</key> >> <integer>120</integer> >> </dict> >> </plist> >> >> Have a nice evening. >> >> Den 2. apr. 2011 kl. 20.48 skrev Jeremy Huddleston: >> >>> Yeah, you're definitely setting DISPLAY somewhere in your environment. >>> >>> Check out the DISPLAY debugging info on the XQuartz FAQ: >>> >>> http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X11-UsersFAQ#sshXforwardingdebugging >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2011, at 11:39, Tommy Bollman wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Bayard. >>>> >>>> I installed a "bare" vim, -at least one without x-support, and I can't >>>> reproduce the problem right now. >>>> >>>> I did tried the command with xterm through XQuartz and I got :0 as the >>>> result when I did the ps command on xterm. >>>> >>>> I have some discrpancies regarding the $DISPLAY : >>>> >>>> Its from my log. Localhost [0x0-0x11d11d].org.macosforge.xquartz.X11[0]: >>>> xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "Localhost.local:0" in "remove" command >>>> >>>> I did a full trace on startx and initx once, and then there popped up >>>> display names of (i believe) >>>> Localhost.local/unix:0. >>>> I just hadn't the time to deal with it then. I don't have that time now >>>> neither, because I can't remember where I put that echo statement do >>>> reveal the display parameter. >>>> >>>> This may have nothing to do with those problems I addressed in this >>>> thread, but as soon as I get around to it, i'll file a ticket or >>>> something, in ordre to understand what is happening here. >>>> >>>> I am rather new to this, and I thought that XQuartz is to replace X11 as >>>> an X-server am I right? >>>> >>>> Thanks anyway, I'll comeback to this when I have the time. >>>> >>>> Den 2. apr. 2011 kl. 19.02 skrev Bayard Bell: >>>> >>>>> Are you able to check your DISPLAY environment variable for each >>>>> application by comparing the output of ps -Exww -p <pid> for each >>>>> process? I believe the normal way that Apple defines their X listeners is >>>>> as LaunchAgents with SecureSocketWithKey, which creates a domain socket >>>>> in a randomly named directory created by launchd for each session, whose >>>>> name is inherited by those jobs but not the user. >>>>> >>>>> As well as the DISPLAY variable, you can use the open command to specify >>>>> which Xserver you want to use (e.g. open -a XQuartz.app >>>>> /opt/local/bin/xemacs). My understanding is that you have to create new >>>>> app and/or bundle names for this to spawn additional Xserver instances, >>>>> otherwise you'll use what's already there if it's running or launch it if >>>>> it's not. >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Apr 2011, at 17:18, Tommy Bollman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Jeremy. >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem I had was that I installed the +huge port of vim. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a good setup of xterm from within xterm. ( I start XQuartz from >>>>>> spotlight). >>>>>> >>>>>> When I then started up vim from withing the xterm, giving the command >>>>>> "gu", then X11.app >>>>>> would start and do the window handling for vim I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> The result was that I ended up having both X11.app and XQuartz.app >>>>>> visible in the command bar. (The one I get when I press cmd-Tab ). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the problems goes for other apps as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since then I have installed a port which doesn't use X11, and MacVim, >>>>>> but I really would like >>>>>> to have the menus and such from within XQuartz. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder how I fix this, so that vim/xim only uses XQuartz as the window >>>>>> server. >>>>>> -If the problems would go away if I recompile, using the libraries found >>>>>> in the /opt tree? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Den 1. apr. 2011 kl. 03.30 skrev Jeremy Huddleston: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Tommy Bollman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>>> Can I read this as I might manage to get vim/xim building with only >>>>>>>> macports libraries and not the ones shipped with Apple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. That is the policy in MacPorts (to prefer in-tree dependencies >>>>>>> rather than system-provided ones). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -And make it work without firing up X11.app ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure what you're asking... You could use any X server you >>>>>>> want... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Den 31. mars 2011 kl. 23.25 skrev Jeremy Huddleston: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Philip J. Schneider wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kinda highjacking my own thread here... :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Considering Jeremy's feedback, I downloaded openmotif and all its >>>>>>>>>> dependencies, and so I can now build/run an X11 app using >>>>>>>>>> MacPorts-provided headers and libs. (That is, with only >>>>>>>>>> /opt/local-based paths specified in XCode.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A few questions: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. In very general terms, how do the xquartz-provided X includes and >>>>>>>>>> libs differ from those provided by MacPorts? Pro/con on using one vs >>>>>>>>>> the other? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The ones in MacPorts are generally the latest versions. >>>>>>>>> The ones from XQuartz are also generally the latest version as of the >>>>>>>>> release date. >>>>>>>>> The ones from Apple are a bit more dated / stable for consistency >>>>>>>>> across major releases of the OS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. If one did want to distribute an X11 application that needed one >>>>>>>>>> or more X-related libraries not provided by the default system (e.g. >>>>>>>>>> openmotif), what would be the recommended approach? I might wish to >>>>>>>>>> assume that the users would not want to build up their own fink or >>>>>>>>>> MacPorts installation... :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd recommend using the host X11 libraries. Link your application >>>>>>>>> (including extra libraries) against those, and ship everything not >>>>>>>>> part of the system. You could use something like /opt/myapp as the >>>>>>>>> prefix for building all your bits and just ship /opt/myapp (and >>>>>>>>> probably place /opt/myapp/bin into $PATH via /etc/paths.h/myapp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>>>> X11-users mailing list ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/x11-users/tommyb06%40student.uia.no >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tommy Bollman >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Mollison's Bureaucracy Hypothesis: >>>>>>>> If an idea can survive a bureaucratic review >>>>>>>> and be implemented it wasn't worth doing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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