On May 31, 2022, at 18:40, James wrote:
>
>> On 1 Jun 2022, at 7:19 am, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> I have not used gimp often enough to be familiar with the option you're
>>> referring to so I'm not sure I can advise you properly. However it may be
>>> significant that gimp can be compiled either in x11 mode or with a native
>>> macOS user interface, which we refer to as quartz mode. It may be the case
>>> that the disk image distributed by the developers of gimp was compiled in
>>> quartz mode, while the default in MacPorts is x11 mode, which may account
>>> for some of the discrepancies you're experiencing. You can install gimp in
>>> quartz mode with MacPorts by using the +quartz variant, however if you wish
>>> to switch from x11 mode to quartz mode you should decide to do so for all
>>> of your installed ports at once, and it is recommended to uninstall all
>>> ports, edit variant.conf to add +quartz, and then reinstall the ports you
>>> want. That way, ports that have quartz variants that require some of their
>>> dependencies to have quartz variants enabled will get built correctly.
>>>
>>> In MacPorts gimp in x11 mode, I just tried saving a file, and then I tried
>>> save-as with the same filename, and it prompted me about whether I wanted
>>> to overwrite the existing file. If this is not the capability you're
>>> seeking, please clarify.
>>
>> We just had a massive lightning strike that took out lots (apple tv,
>> ethernet on my mac, printer, nucs, blackmagic boxes, usb keyboard ...) so I
>> might be confused in my overloaded state :-) The real issue is the open
>> event.
>>
>> I can't find how to remove a single port, google has oodles to say on how to
>> remove ALL ports, but nothing about 1.
>
> To uninstall a port named foo and a port named bar, "sudo port uninstall foo
> bar".
>
> You can also specify pseudo portnames like "installed" or "inactive" ("sudo
> port uninstall inactive").
>
>
>> I will compile gimp with +quartz but most of my ports do use X11 so I don't
>> want quartz versions. SSH from other machines!
>> nomachine and remote desktop from other macs are cludgy.
>
> I don't think you will have success attempting to install gimp2 with +quartz
> while retaining the +x11 variant of other ports. In particular, gimp2 and
> gtk2 will need to be installed with the same variant (either +quartz or
> +x11), and whatever variant you install gtk2 with will need to be set on all
> other ports that use gtk2. That's why we suggest to decide which variant you
> want before installing any ports (or uninstall all ports and reinstall if you
> change your mind).
>
> If you want to use some ports with +x11 and some with +quartz, one
> oft-suggested idea is to keep your main MacPorts installation at /opt/local
> using +x11 (so that you can receive binaries from us) and build a second
> MacPorts installation from source in a different prefix (/opt/quartz, say)
> and configure that one with +quartz.
>
> Ideally we would reengineer this situation so that quartz and x11 things
> could coexist. It's been a long-term wish that nobody worked on yet, though
> Chris says he will work on it.
Ryan thanks!
It's all confusing:
On my macbook (monterey) gimp (x11)(I can see xquartz open) works as expected.
On my iMac (high sierra : end of line) it does not.
rather than playing with all my ports I download gimp.dmg from gimp, which
works properly.
James
