I haven't loaded Tahoe yet. But I''m reasonably sure they haven't locked you 
into the Mac App Store or anything like that. You can still use Terminal, still 
build open source software (if perhaps not always as easily as on Linux or 
*BSD).

As someone who has had root on Unix since v7 on the PDP-11, I find the locked 
down OS filesystems rather annoying. But I can usually work around it. There 
was an NFS automounter bug in Monterey that was fixed in Ventura (probably 
wouldn't have been  if I hadn't reported it). And on the most recent I've 
tried, NFSv4 is still problematic with some apps (Movist accessing video files 
on a Solaris server).

A few things one thinks of as Unix may be a bit rusty, they may dump a few old 
commands that become a support problem, etc. But I don't see it as a heck of a 
lot different than anything else at the user level, give or take that X11 (let 
alone Wayland) is not the native graphics environment...but I have an old copy 
of Xpat2 X11 solitaire hacked a bit to use something other than /usr/games 
(which rootless won't let me create) that works just fine, as does xterm, 
xephem, and some other interesting X11 apps.

Can't do much with kexts anymore, and the user space alternatives don't impress 
me although I haven't really looked at them. But not 1 in 10,000 fools with 
that sort of thing anyway. However implemented, I'd like to see kernel based 
SCTP, AFS, etc. The FUSE based procfs is very limited, life's a bitch. But 
again, even as an occasional kernel hacker, I don't do those things much 
anyway, and IMO the graphical user environment sucks MUCH less than what I see 
on my Ubuntu or CentOS VMs or whatever my Raspberry Pi 4 is running.

> On Sep 25, 2025, at 19:51, James Linder <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2025, at 23:57, John Wiggins via macports-users 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I cannot speak to your issues, but would like to mention the ‘obvious’ and 
>> thank all the volunteers for adding the ‘migrate’ option.
>> I updated to Tahoe recently, and forgot to the recommended full uninstall 
>> and fresh install of individual packages.
>> 
>> The following worked for me in getting things setup correctly:
>> sudo port migrate
> 
> May I ask an OT question.
> Apple seem to go out of their way to de-unix each release. I’m running 
> Sonoma. Does Tahoe offer me anything (and I’m not at all interested in my 
> phone and laptop conspiring with my iPad … or any social issues)
> Ja
> 

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