Oh yes that would be a good idea! And fairly “easy” as well, at least
using plain IRB should be, we just won't get much context information.
Cheerio,
Eloy
On Jun 18, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
Like Eloy I do TDD but apparently, unlike him I use the debugger
quite often. (Mainly in my specs when I can't get them to pass)
Not being able to use ruby debug in MacRuby is something that used
to really bother me at first. I'm thinking about maybe hacking
hotconsole so you could run it in the context of your app. That
would obviously not be as nice a real debugger but that might be cool.
- Matt
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Eloy Duran
<eloy.de.en...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pual,
I sometimes use GDB when I need to debug RubyCocoa/MacRuby
_themselves_, as they're written in C. For Ruby code, however, I
almost never need a debugger.
Maybe it's because I write most code test driven so I know that the
code is probably ok when I actually use it. In the cases where it
didn't pan out as expected, I use print style debugging or ruby-
debug (RubyCocoa). For a more elaborate explanation, please see the
testing video of Manfred explaining about it at the Ruby on OS X
conference: http://www.fngtps.com/2009/06/ruby-on-os-x-conference-videos
We have a fairly big RubyCocoa app and some of our Rails apps are
really big.
It's unfortunate that ruby-debug doesn't work on MacRuby, but
Laurent has already announced that at some point in the future work
will be done in this area. But at this moment, MacRuby itself still
needs lots of work. So we'll need to have a bit more patience for a
real debugger.
HTH,
Eloy
On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:42 AM, Paul Howson wrote:
On 04/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
I have an idea about adding facilities inside the new VM in order to
attach a debugger to it (and we could even patch gdb to add Ruby
support!) but I won't be able to start this any time soon, because
there are too many higher priority things to implement first. But if
one wants to help... patches are always welcome.
Laurent
Hmmm. Lack of debugger support is surely a serious limitation. A
deal-stopper for any complex real-world app I would have thought.
I guess you're aware that this will eventually be needed.
Is anyone using MacRuby for a large project? How are they coping
without a debugger? (I'd like to know since I'm planning to convert
an old non-Objective-C app to MacRuby).
Paul Howson
Queensland Australia
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