Oh yes that would be a good idea! And fairly “easy” as well, at least using plain IRB should be, we just won't get much context information.

Cheerio,
Eloy

On Jun 18, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Matt Aimonetti wrote:

Like Eloy I do TDD but apparently, unlike him I use the debugger quite often. (Mainly in my specs when I can't get them to pass) Not being able to use ruby debug in MacRuby is something that used to really bother me at first. I'm thinking about maybe hacking hotconsole so you could run it in the context of your app. That would obviously not be as nice a real debugger but that might be cool.

- Matt


On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Eloy Duran <eloy.de.en...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pual,

I sometimes use GDB when I need to debug RubyCocoa/MacRuby _themselves_, as they're written in C. For Ruby code, however, I almost never need a debugger. Maybe it's because I write most code test driven so I know that the code is probably ok when I actually use it. In the cases where it didn't pan out as expected, I use print style debugging or ruby- debug (RubyCocoa). For a more elaborate explanation, please see the testing video of Manfred explaining about it at the Ruby on OS X conference: http://www.fngtps.com/2009/06/ruby-on-os-x-conference-videos

We have a fairly big RubyCocoa app and some of our Rails apps are really big.

It's unfortunate that ruby-debug doesn't work on MacRuby, but Laurent has already announced that at some point in the future work will be done in this area. But at this moment, MacRuby itself still needs lots of work. So we'll need to have a bit more patience for a real debugger.

HTH,
Eloy


On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:42 AM, Paul Howson wrote:

On 04/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Laurent Sansonetti wrote:

I have an idea about adding facilities inside the new VM in order to attach a debugger to it (and we could even patch gdb to add Ruby support!) but I won't be able to start this any time soon, because there are too many higher priority things to implement first. But if one wants to help... patches are always welcome.

Laurent

Hmmm. Lack of debugger support is surely a serious limitation. A deal-stopper for any complex real-world app I would have thought.

I guess you're aware that this will eventually be needed.

Is anyone using MacRuby for a large project? How are they coping without a debugger? (I'd like to know since I'm planning to convert an old non-Objective-C app to MacRuby).

Paul Howson
Queensland Australia
_______________________________________________
MacRuby-devel mailing list
MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel

_______________________________________________
MacRuby-devel mailing list
MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel

_______________________________________________
MacRuby-devel mailing list
MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel

_______________________________________________
MacRuby-devel mailing list
MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org
http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel

Reply via email to