Thanks for your feedback...

On Dec 15, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. wrote:
> 
> Hi "S",

Point taken :)

>> Would a newbie list be worth creating?
> 
> I would encourage you to just go ahead and ask on this list, for several 
> reasons:
> 
> a) The people who would answer are here, so they may as well answer

That's what someone says every time somebody else suggests forking a list. I 
hope it's the right answer because a lot of my questions would be off topic 
both on this list and the Cocoa Developers list.

> b) It could be a bug, in which case it belongs here

Yeah, but at this point, I think many of us can tell when it's our own fault :)

> c) It helps us understand usage issues, which may inform features and 
> documentation

Again, point taken.

> The more interesting question to me is when do we create a macruby-users list 
> for those using the "stable" version -- or move development OF macruby to a 
> "macruby-core"?
> 
> I guess it depends on when MacRuby is stable enough and popular enough.  At 
> any rate, it isn't yet.
> 
> -enp
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:21 AM, s.ross wrote:
> 
>> There are a number of questions I know I have coming from a Ruby/Rails and 
>> not a Cocoa background. These questions can be difficult to answer in the 
>> context of Objective-C (and heck, Ruby makes a lot of the Objective-C 
>> syntactic vinegar just go away). They are also not specifically about 
>> MacRuby, but rather about how it interacts with the framework.
>> 
>> Because MacRuby can open up Cocoa to developers who really didn't want to 
>> mess around with [[obj alloc] init] and all that stuff. Many of you on this 
>> list did go through that learning experience but have already answered these 
>> same questions before in a different context but shouldn't be imposed upon 
>> to answer them again. Would a newbie list be worth creating? I find myself 
>> coming up with seemingly stupid questions that I simply don't want to 
>> trouble the list with but that take hours to dig out of the documentation. 
>> That would be the proposed purpose. Post some code, expected results, and 
>> what's actually happening.
>> 
>> Maybe an example: I want a single pane Core Data application but I forgot to 
>> select the template that creates an appDelegate. How do I get a 
>> managedObject context and how do I add some seed data to that collection 
>> once it's bound to an NSTableView. See? Complicated n00b question that 
>> requires IB steps and Ruby steps. Takes quite a bit of trekking around in 
>> the documentation to figure out. But someone who's walked the same path 
>> before could answer it right away.
>> 
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