On 2011-02-04, at 01:26 , Rich Morin wrote:
> 
> One of my concerns with both MacRuby and JRuby is
> that the resulting code doesn't look much like Ruby.

I'm sure the situation in JRuby land is worse, but generally, using Cocoa stuff 
from MacRuby feels enough like ruby, save for the HorridCamelCase, but I've 
gotten used to that.

One other issue that annoys me tremendously is passing NSError pointers. I've 
created this generic wrapper to raise ruby exceptions instead:

https://github.com/kch/aliastool/blob/master/src/raisins.rb

E.g.:

  raisingNSError { |e| 
    NSURL.bookmarkDataWithContentsOfURL(alias_url, error:e) }

I'd be curious to see other snippets that make MacRuby look more like Ruby, but 
mostly…


I don't think there's an easy way out of this. Whenever someone gets into a new 
language, they'll first try to shoehorn it into the language they're familiar 
with. Java coders will write ruby that looks like Java. ObjC coders will write 
code that looks like ObjC. And especially, Noob coders will write n00b code. 
Even python people coming to ruby wtite like it is verbosefest. Most 
post-Ruby-on-Rails ruby code I've seen is a crazy mess of pointless assignments 
and neverending if-then-elsery.
/rant

Eventually people learn, but they won't go after a book until they realize 
there's a problem with the way they write code.

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