Hi Guys, I have a project that written in MacRuby but I can split the code to logic in Ruby and the UI which I can translate to Objective-C . So My problem is how to run a pure Ruby from my app. I was thinking of opening an AppleScript terminal and running IRB there . Has anyone tried it? Do you have a better easier idea ? Is it doable ?? Thnks, David Kramf
On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Robert Carl Rice wrote: > Hi Rob, > > Thanks for looking into this. > > The iTunes Store has notified me that my current binaries will be removed > from the store for not being compatible with the current OS release. Recoding > for either RubyMotion or Objective-C will be a big job and I'm not looking > forward to it. > > PS; the new Xcode renews the warning that Xcode 5 is scheduled to be the last > Xcode version to support GC, but I don't see anything that ties version 6 to > a scheduled OS update. > > Bob Rice > > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 4:27 PM, rob ista <rob.i...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> indeed the GC is still there on Mavericks and needs to be ‘required’ in >> Xcode while disabling ARC to avoid a conflict (thanks Steve). So far so >> good. I guess I had too many probe at the same time :). The malfunctioning >> again of the IB in Xcode5 with the outlets can be solved with the earlier >> published workaround of an accompanying ObjC Class.h file next to the >> MacRuby Class.rb file. It’s a bit additional work to create and maintain >> but we’re talking about a few minutes here so that should not be a problem >> unless you have to maintain many many classes with outlets. Obviously the >> rb-nibtool is not called or not working anymore even when properly installed. >> >> What is a bigger problem is that not all objects seem to be created at >> run-time resulting in no-method errors (e.g. with gems) and sometimes not >> connected outlets in delegate classes or unresolved IB-action methods. >> Pretty weird. The same sources compile and run fine on SL-L-ML . For me it’s >> difficult to trace why and where this happens so hopefully an expert can >> shine a light on this. Very simple apps run fine, bigger ones with just more >> classes and stuff crash. >> >> I am moving back to ML and keep may be a little "play machine” on a separate >> disk with Mavericks. I am tooooo happy with my MacRuby apps :) … May be >> moving to RubyMotion after all. I will test it at least soon. Laurent >> deserves the support and its not that much money :). >> >> cheers, Rob >> >> >> >> On 05 Nov 2013, at 19:55, macruby-devel-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: >> >>> Send MacRuby-devel mailing list submissions to >>> macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> macruby-devel-requ...@lists.macosforge.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> macruby-devel-ow...@lists.macosforge.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of MacRuby-devel digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. MacRuby on Mavericks (Robert Carl Rice) >>> 2. Re: MacRuby on Mavericks (Mark Villacampa) >>> 3. Re: MacRuby on Mavericks (Robert Carl Rice) >>> 4. Re: MacRuby on Mavericks (Stephen Horne) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 22:02:58 -0500 >>> From: Robert Carl Rice <rice.au...@pobox.com> >>> To: "MacRuby development discussions." >>> <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> >>> Subject: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks >>> Message-ID: <9ea268fc-55d6-4f3e-8372-d2b831d58...@pobox.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Nice that I sparked some discussion. >>> >>> One of the reasons that I continued to write MacRuby script even though >>> Xcode was giving me the warning that GC was deprecated is that I suspect >>> that was a mostly a political move to appease the egos of the IOS and ARC >>> guys and also to encourage programmers to write more efficient code. Even >>> if Apple is determined not to support GC on the mobile devices, there is >>> probable no really good technical reason to remove the capability for >>> desktop apps. So I would have been surprised if Apple had removed GC in >>> Mavericks and I still would be surprised if Apple does that anytime soon, >>> if they do that at all. >>> >>> If would be a mistake, because the relative simplicity of script language >>> programming is what makes it possible for a lonesome programmer such as >>> myself to develop and maintain a couple of relatively large applications. >>> The problem with RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and >>> since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much >>> work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in >>> objective-C. >>> >>> I don't have any inside information on Apple's thinking, but I suspect that >>> may be worth the effort to upgrade MacRuby for Mavericks. I'll let you know >>> when I find out if the App Store will still still support MacRuby apps. >>> >>> Bob Rice >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 09:46:14 +0100 >>> From: Mark Villacampa <markv...@gmail.com> >>> To: "MacRuby development discussions." >>> <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> >>> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks >>> Message-ID: <eb5cfea0-0397-442c-b0c9-a3fa3228b...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hey Bob, >>> >>> Have you seen the IB gem? It let's you use nibs with Rubymotion with >>> minimal changes in your MacRuby code. >>> >>> https://github.com/yury/ib >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 05/11/2013, at 04:02, Robert Carl Rice <rice.au...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Nice that I sparked some discussion. >>>> >>>> One of the reasons that I continued to write MacRuby script even though >>>> Xcode was giving me the warning that GC was deprecated is that I suspect >>>> that was a mostly a political move to appease the egos of the IOS and ARC >>>> guys and also to encourage programmers to write more efficient code. Even >>>> if Apple is determined not to support GC on the mobile devices, there is >>>> probable no really good technical reason to remove the capability for >>>> desktop apps. So I would have been surprised if Apple had removed GC in >>>> Mavericks and I still would be surprised if Apple does that anytime soon, >>>> if they do that at all. >>>> >>>> If would be a mistake, because the relative simplicity of script language >>>> programming is what makes it possible for a lonesome programmer such as >>>> myself to develop and maintain a couple of relatively large applications. >>>> The problem with RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and >>>> since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much >>>> work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in >>>> objective-C. >>>> >>>> I don't have any inside information on Apple's thinking, but I suspect >>>> that may be worth the effort to upgrade MacRuby for Mavericks. I'll let >>>> you know when I find out if the App Store will still still support MacRuby >>>> apps. >>>> >>>> Bob Rice >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacRuby-devel mailing list >>>> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >>>> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macruby-devel/attachments/20131105/a6503aac/attachment-0001.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:42:32 -0500 >>> From: Robert Carl Rice <rice.au...@pobox.com> >>> To: "MacRuby development discussions." >>> <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> >>> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks >>> Message-ID: <e19ac16e-8e6f-4006-b443-39f1cdf1b...@pobox.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> Thanks, I took a quick look at IB gem documentation. >>> >>> It looks like a possibility for me although it also looks like it could be >>> difficult to maintain. You have to run rake ib:open every time you make a >>> change in your ruby files. >>> >>> Ruby programmers will have a natural aversion to anything cryptic and >>> unmaintainable as, for example, Unix shell script. Any solution I see seems >>> like a throwback in sophistication. It took time for me to become familiar >>> with XCODE so I'm not anxious to give up on it even with frequent crashes. >>> >>> PS. It seems to me that Xcode crashes because it gets to have too many >>> files open in the editor and it will restore those open files when >>> relaunched and continue to crash. But, doing a normal quit and relaunch >>> will close files. Is there a shortcut to close all editor files? >>> >>> Bob Rice >>> >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Mark Villacampa <markv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Bob, >>>> >>>> Have you seen the IB gem? It let's you use nibs with Rubymotion with >>>> minimal changes in your MacRuby code. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/yury/ib >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 05/11/2013, at 04:02, Robert Carl Rice <rice.au...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Nice that I sparked some discussion. >>>>> >>>>> One of the reasons that I continued to write MacRuby script even though >>>>> Xcode was giving me the warning that GC was deprecated is that I suspect >>>>> that was a mostly a political move to appease the egos of the IOS and ARC >>>>> guys and also to encourage programmers to write more efficient code. Even >>>>> if Apple is determined not to support GC on the mobile devices, there is >>>>> probable no really good technical reason to remove the capability for >>>>> desktop apps. So I would have been surprised if Apple had removed GC in >>>>> Mavericks and I still would be surprised if Apple does that anytime soon, >>>>> if they do that at all. >>>>> >>>>> If would be a mistake, because the relative simplicity of script language >>>>> programming is what makes it possible for a lonesome programmer such as >>>>> myself to develop and maintain a couple of relatively large applications. >>>>> The problem with RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and >>>>> since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much >>>>> work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in >>>>> objective-C. >>>>> >>>>> I don't have any inside information on Apple's thinking, but I suspect >>>>> that may be worth the effort to upgrade MacRuby for Mavericks. I'll let >>>>> you know when I find out if the App Store will still still support >>>>> MacRuby apps. >>>>> >>>>> Bob Rice >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MacRuby-devel mailing list >>>>> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >>>>> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacRuby-devel mailing list >>>> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >>>> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macruby-devel/attachments/20131105/533d9329/attachment-0001.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:55:32 +0000 >>> From: "Stephen Horne" <fat...@gmail.com> >>> To: "MacRuby development discussions." >>> <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org> >>> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks >>> Message-ID: <0d72206a-a80e-46c9-a8e0-1fd27a764...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >>> >>> On 5 Nov 2013, at 18:42, Robert Carl Rice wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, I took a quick look at IB gem documentation. >>>> It looks like a possibility for me although it also looks like it >>>> could be difficult to maintain. You have to run rake ib:open every >>>> time you make a change in your ruby files. >>> >>> I suppose you could have something like the kicker gem running in the >>> background watching for changes to .rb files and running the rake >>> command when it sees one. >>> >>>> Ruby programmers will have a natural aversion to anything cryptic and >>>> unmaintainable as, for example, Unix shell script. Any solution I see >>>> seems like a throwback in sophistication. It took time for me to >>>> become familiar with XCODE so I'm not anxious to give up on it even >>>> with frequent crashes. >>>> PS. It seems to me that Xcode crashes because it gets to have too many >>>> files open in the editor and it will restore those open files when >>>> relaunched and continue to crash. But, doing a normal quit and >>>> relaunch will close files. Is there a shortcut to close all editor >>>> files? >>> >>> Not one that I know of. Xcode seems to ignore the system-wide settings >>> for this (as it does with many other settings). I believe that Xcode is >>> applescriptable enough to write something that loops through the open >>> tabs and shuts them before quitting however. >>> >>> Failing that, I know that you can reset the window state inside an Xcode >>> project by deleting the UserInterfaceState.xcuserstate file found here: >>> >>> xcode_project.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/xcuserdata/username.xcuserdatad/UserInterfaceState.xcuserstate >>> >>>> Bob Rice >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stephen Horne >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacRuby-devel mailing list >>> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >>> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel >>> >>> >>> End of MacRuby-devel Digest, Vol 66, Issue 5 >>> ******************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacRuby-devel mailing list >> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >> https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel > > _______________________________________________ > MacRuby-devel mailing list > MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel
