Hi Ray,
It sounds as if you are describing MODx to me. MODx has a learning curve which 
I think has limited its acceptance. Its not as easy to configure as Wordpress 
for example, but you get far far more control. Essentially MODx is built around 
snippets of PHP and chunks of HTML that you use on each page. On top of this 
you have Template Variables which are entry fields in CMS. I use template 
variables to control what pages appear in my sitemap for example. It also has a 
large set of plugins for forms, capcha etc.

@Simon: The links in MODx fun off of page ID, so you can change the page name 
or URL and all links are maintained. 

If anyone on here want to ask more MODx related questions feel free to get in 
touch off list ([email protected] is best) 

-John Nye 



On 2 Aug 2010, at 12:15, Ray Barber wrote:

> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Andrew Merenbach <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:50 AM, rrlangly
> >>> <[email protected]<rrlangly%40yahoo.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm curious to know what all people are using to make their websites.
> >> I've
> >>>> already got the host provider.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm looking for a mac style, very maintainable website (tool) that I
> >> can
> >>>> edit quite often for an app I'm about to release this year, so I expect
> >> to
> >>>> have to make lots of edits while the app is being released, yet I would
> >> like
> >>>> for it to have a very professional mac style look.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Simple, elegant, maintainable. I'll add screenshots, overviews, feature
> >>>> lists, etc...
> >>>> 
> >>>> Anyone have advice, suggestions?
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I am in the process switching away from Drupal. I'm not yet clear on what
> >> to
> >>> switch to, perhaps http://typo3.com/
> >>> But I cannot recommend either of them as being very
> >>> simple/elegant/maintainable.
> >>> 
> >>> Or perhaps I just go with some makefiles + static pages.
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Simon Strandgaard - author of http://graphicdesignertoolbox.com/
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> Now I'm curious: I use Drupal for multiple websites, including my own, and
> >> have in fact been using it for several years now. What are some of the
> >> downsides of Drupal for you (and anyone else)? What led you to switch away
> >> from it?
> >> 
> > 
> > In Drupal, links from one page to another aren't robust. By robust I mean
> > that if I one day change a page name, then the link breaks down.
> > In TYPO3, links are robust, so you can change pagenames and urlrewriting and
> > still have links that works.
> > 
> > When I made my site I had to gaze through the Drupal code to figure out how
> > to integrate my php code.
> > Drupal is somewhat ugly non-oopish code.
> > 
> > The way you make themes in TYPO3 is much more elegant than in Drupal.
> > 
> > TYPO3 has a much more mature backend, but sadly also a much steeper learning
> > curve.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know MODx. How is it's backend?
> 
> Now everyone has me interested. :-)
> 
> The fact of the matter, is that there as many CMS/blogging apps as Carter
> has Liver Pills. It's no longer a matter of finding one. It's a matter of
> finding one that works well and suits our taste, easily "themed", adheres to
> standards, and SEO friendly, etc, all in a sea of other CMS scripts.
> 
> Does anyone remember pMachine? (that was around probably before much else
> was)
> 
> While it wasn't necessarily the 'best' CMS around, there was indeed one
> thing about it that I just loved. You could place a single php function
> (with parameters) on any page, and that would essentially drive your site.
> Each page has its own function, say for the Contact page, a Category
> Display, or a List, for example.
> 
> It was really nice because you could utilize ANY design you wanted. Just
> set the function(s). Done.
> 
> Of course, the thing it lacked was true SEO URLs, and plugin-ability. It
> was very difficult to scale.
> 
> I pine for a CMS that offers that same kind of flexibility, but offers the
> SEO links ala' TYPO3 or WordPress, and the scalability through the use of
> plugins like WordPress.
> 
> If anyone knows of such a CMS, please chime in. I would certainly love to
> see it.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ray
> 
> 



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