On 4/25/07, Till Straumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /I can confirm your report (mbp, c1d here) - I also
> found similar results (~17-18W) under osx. On linux
> I get down to 20-21W (low brighness, disk at rest, CPU freq
> at 1GHz, ati powerstate=1) but I found that unloading
> the 'uvcvideo' driver (isight) seems to save almost
> another ~1W or so - I'm at 19-20W right now.

This is considerably better than an mbp c2d.  If you don't set
powerstate to the lowest state what do you get?  Do your fans run at a
higher speed than in OS X?  On OS X now I'm at 18 W with wireless and
a dim screen.  This is around 3 hrs (though it goes up to 3.5+ hrs if
I let make sure nothing is running in the background).  If I could get
19-20 W in linux with the fans quiet that would be spectacular.  What
do you use to set the disk to rest - laptop mode?

thanks,
Sheer

>
> -- Till
>
> PS I still have the wireless up; shutting it down probably
> saves also some power.
> /
> Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 08:10 +0200, Sven Anders wrote:
> >
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> I thought about the power consumption. Maybe we can track the problem down
> >> some other way...
> >>
> >> 1. Is the output of '/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state' reliable? If it is,
> >>    we can use it for testing, otherwise we have to test how long the 
> >> battery
> >>    really lasts.
> >>
> >
> > well at least the predicted time matched very well the time when the mbp
> > went out of batteries and as that time is based on powerconsumption
> > estimates in /proc/*/BAT0/state I would tend to say it is OK.
> >
> >
> >> 2. As far as I remember, the MacBook is very similar to the MacBook Pro in
> >>    the hardware it's using. The main difference is the GPU.
> >>    How long does the battery of the MacBook under Linux last in comparison 
> >> to
> >>    MacOS X?
> >>    If it's a small difference, so our problem is the power consumption of
> >>    the ATI GPU (assuming the Intel-GPU draws as less power under Linux as 
> >> it
> >>    does under MacOSX). On the MacBook we have the advantage, that it's an
> >>    open-source driver.
> >>    If the power drain is as bad as on the MacBook Pro (and we checked the
> >>    Intel-GPU driver, that is's using all power-saving states available),
> >>    the problem lies somewhere else...
> >>
> >> To check these, we need some output of the MacBook's /proc/acpi values or
> >> somebody who helps us to prove these theory...
> >>
> >
> > well I am using a mbp c1d and it eats about 27W with everything on +
> > full brightness. as you know powerplay is supported on this book,
> > aticonfig --set-powerstate=1 (low power mode) gives me 1-2W less boiling
> > down to 25-26W or max. 10 extra minutes (*), if you further set
> > display-brightness to the lowest level it goes down to 21-22W and
> > backlight off still has 20W.
> >
> > In OSX I get 23.8W (=2h 18min) with everything on and 18.5W (=2h 58min)
> > with everything off+low brightness
> >
> > so we are looking for reasons (I don't expect it to be a single one)
> > that explain a gap of ~4W ... which seems a lot considering that this is
> > essentially what the display at full brightness eats up but still may
> > not be as big as we expected.
> >
> > Soeren
> >
> > (*): this assumes that your battery can be charged to 55Wh mine after
> > half a year of intensive usage is already down to 35Wh
> >
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