I’ve never seen the 20-cell version, but yes.  The forty-cell units have three 
buttons at either end of the braille cels.  They’re very handy.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 24, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I didn't know the 40-cell Brailliant had panning buttons at either end of the 
> display in addition to the thumb keys. I have the 20-cell unit, which does 
> not have those, but I have heard that the 40-cell Brailliant has more buttons 
> than the one I have.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 24, 2024 09:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone have experience with the Orbit reader?
> 
> Yeah.  So far it's only in my thumbs, so if the display has panning buttons 
> on either end of the braille cells, I'm fine.  The Brailliant does have that, 
> but the Mantis does not.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 23, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I would rather pay more for a device that will work reliably for at 
>> least a few years before having to be sent in than have a cheap display that 
>> has to be sent in potentially several times a year for repairs. Personally, 
>> I love the thumb keys on Humanware displays, but you're not the first person 
>> who has told me that they're very difficult to use for people who have 
>> arthritis in their hands.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Saturday, March 23, 2024 02:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anyone have experience with the Orbit reader?
>> 
>> Hi Jessica,
>> Wow!  I'm sorry to hear that you had so many problems with the device, all 
>> the more since you had the opportunity to test several different units.  A 
>> Braille display whose cells don't last is definitely no deal, no matter how 
>> great the price tag is.  Glad you have your BrailleSense 6, so at least you 
>> weren't completely reliant on the Orbit Reader.  Thanks for telling me about 
>> your experience.  I have to say that has me leaning away from buying it.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> I tested several Orbit Readers for my braille and talking book library, and 
>>> they all broke down within a few months, if not sooner. I loved the braille 
>>> cells when they were all in good working order, so I bought an Orbit Reader 
>>> 20 Plus shortly after it was released, hoping that the longevity of the 
>>> braille cells had improved. After eight or nine months, two of the cells 
>>> had stopped working correctly. I got the BrailleSense 6 around the same 
>>> time, so the Orbit just sat unused on a shelf for a while before I got it 
>>> repaired. After that I donated it to an organization I'm in because I 
>>> wanted to get rid of it but didn't feel as though I should ask for money 
>>> for a product I had already had such bad luck with. I know there are people 
>>> who have had good luck with the Orbit Reader, but I would not recommend it 
>>> to anyone.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Saturday, March 23, 2024 09:08 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Anyone have experience with the Orbit reader?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am still on a quest to find a braille display with a qwerty keyboard, and 
>>> I just saw that Orbit is about to release a forty cell display with a 
>>> qwerty keyboard.  I'd love to hear about people's experience with the Orbit 
>>> reader.  I realize it won't be the new display, but I do remember that at 
>>> least early on, people had a lot of negative things to say about the Orbit 
>>> reader.  Is that still the case?  In the blurb I read, it said it's 
>>> compatible with Voiceover.  Has anyone used an Orbit with either a Mac or 
>>> an iPhone?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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