You know, we’re so deep into the Apple ecosystem that if we ever decide to leave it, it’s going to cost us a bloody fortune. So at this point, it doesn’t really matter. Lol Cheers, Donna
> On Apr 1, 2024, at 5:46 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For me the fact that HomePods do not have any sort of Bluetooth or casting > capability is a no-go for me! In case I ever want to leave the Apple > ecosystem I can't believe the only thing they let you do is airplay well I > guess I can believe it lol! > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 3:17 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> >> I haven’t had any problems like that, but I never play music from my Mac. I >> always either play it using Siri, or using my phone. And none of our >> HomePods ever drop out, unless we’ve been having network issues. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with >>> really only one problem which I have yet to figure out. When playing music >>> on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some reason. >>> I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet. I have a >>> electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my thurmastate. >>> Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting out. This does not >>> happen with my ipad mini 5. >>> >>> >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> Actually, the HomePod is a good product. The problem isn’t that the >>>> HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without >>>> first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit. >>>> >>>> In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, >>>> I think. We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly >>>> dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset. I don’t have any of >>>> that with the HomePods. Also, I think Apple does a much better job of >>>> managing security than Amazon Alexa does. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons <theleo...@gmail.com> >>>>> <mailto:theleo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the >>>>> HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has >>>>> turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am >>>>> getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad >>>>> invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a >>>>> Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices >>>>> can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their >>>>> defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those >>>>> people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> I don’t want to get a HomePod. >>>>>> Not for this reason but I do not need it. >>>>>> However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me. >>>>>> I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand. >>>>>> Bless. >>>>>> /A >>>>>> >>>>>>> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially >>>>>>> impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini. >>>>>>> Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod >>>>>>> mini, I found the following article. Buyer beware! Apparently Apple >>>>>>> thinks it’s just fine to sell these things. I plan on returning mine, >>>>>>> and will only buy another if the people at the Apple Store can >>>>>>> definitively prove that it is running a more recent software version. >>>>>>> <HomePodandMini-feature-orange.jpeg> >>>>>>> Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data >>>>>>> Protection Is Enabled >>>>>>> macrumors.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#>Apple >>>>>>> Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data >>>>>>> Protection Is Enabled >>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#> >>>>>>> macrumors.com >>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/20/homepod-bug-advanced-data-protection/#> >>>>>>> The text of the article follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into >>>>>>> your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod >>>>>>> speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1616115559715975168>, there is a >>>>>>> bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of >>>>>>> the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has >>>>>>> been turned on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than >>>>>>> 16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an >>>>>>> update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple's support document explains what options are available to >>>>>>> customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a >>>>>>> HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and >>>>>>> update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod >>>>>>> in the Finder sidebar and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This >>>>>>> will update the speaker to the latest software, after which it can be >>>>>>> properly set up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no >>>>>>> USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is >>>>>>> expected to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have >>>>>>> to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod >>>>>>> software. Apple outlines how to do that in the following way: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, >>>>>>> iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap >>>>>>> iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data >>>>>>> Protection. >>>>>>> If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up >>>>>>> your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod >>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-your-homepod/>. Then set up >>>>>>> your HomePod >>>>>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-your-new-homepod/>. >>>>>>> Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. >>>>>>> Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, >>>>>>> iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap >>>>>>> iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data >>>>>>> Protection. >>>>>>> Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection >>>>>>> to turn it back on immediately after their HomePod software is updated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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