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On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I was watching this thpread wondering if anybody would come upon that problem and it seems you did Donna Just before I piped in. I had the same problem when I upgraded to Sonoma. It seems like VO defaults to have the mouse pointer track the VO cursor and disassociating the two of them solves that problem of menu navigation. Matter fact Brad I think you’re the one that told me about it.
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On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:


OK, good to know.
Glad you got it fixed.

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On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hey, Brad, thanks!  I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to Moves Voiceover Cursor.  I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO cursor solved the issue.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:

OK, now I am the one who is confused.
Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura.
I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues.
I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release.
The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor.
You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”.


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On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused.  None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all.  Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items.  If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found.  I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura.
TIA,
Donna

On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:

Rebooting won’t fix this issue.
You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q.
This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma.
In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to modify how this feature works.  If you wish, you can restore the original functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma.
Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma.

HTH.

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On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Herbie,

I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue.  Is there some setting I need to change?
Cheers,
Donna


On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote:

Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact steps and had no issues.

On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I just upgraded to Sonoma.  In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES.  The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want.  Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma?
TIA,
Donna

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