I tried setting up an account, using Face Book, but because I'm hard  
of hearing, the capcha was hard to navigate for me.  Is there a toll- 
free number to get assistance?  Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Tiffany D wrote:

>
> I actually didn't have to do all that navigation.  I just went to web
> under the VoiceOver utility, tabbed once and used VO right arrow.
> Instantly I saw the options and selected the group mode radio button.
> As for Facebook it's a large and cluttered site.  I like the mobile
> version but find that it won't let me see posts made in groups and
> won't let me comment on my own status.  Neither site will let me
> delete applications once added.  I've tried this with a few
> screenreaders on my XP machine and one of them at least tells me that
> there's a remove button but it won't let me press it.  VoiceOver
> doesn't even recognise it and will only let me block an ap.  Does
> anyone know how I can fix this problem?  Also, can I delete the photos
> ap and still add photos?  I'm sick of seeing "person A has added a new
> photo" or "B has commented on A's photo".  These things do nothing for
> me.
>
> On 03/03/2009, rayna424 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Esther. I ended up speaking to someone on the phone and we went
>> over the group mode thing. I think I'll wait on that until I get more
>> comfortable haha. I'm finding that learning this like pealing an
>> onion, and so far I've only taken off the thin dry outer coating  
>> haha.
>> At least after my phone conversation, all those VO keys you mentioned
>> made sense. I've learned some stuff from reading manuals and such,  
>> but
>> find that the best way for me is by playing. And talking directly on
>> the phone definitely makes more sense. I'll keep group mode in mind
>> for future reference though, for sure. Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Randi
>>
>> Esther wrote:
>>> Hi Randi,
>>>
>>> Group mode is one of the settings in the VoiceOver Utility panel  
>>> (VO-
>>> F8).  Interact with the table (VO-Shift Down arrow) and navigate to
>>> the "Web" setting.  Then stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow) and  
>>> VO-
>>> right to the settings under "Web".  The first entry will be "When
>>> naviagating web content use"  and there will be radio buttons for  
>>> "DOM
>>> navigation" and "Group navigation".  VO-right to the one you want,  
>>> and
>>> use VO-space to select that radio button.  Then use Command-W to  
>>> close
>>> the Utility Panel window.
>>>
>>> DOM mode is a kind of consecutive ordering of visiting links.  Group
>>> mode is hierarchical, and can be faster on pages you're familiar  
>>> with
>>> (you navigate by groups and drill down by interacting to the precise
>>> item you want).  Some web pages work better in one mode than  
>>> another.
>>> This is also within individual usage preference.
>>>
>>> If you haven't done this, you should start by downloading the
>>> "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard" from
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
>>>
>>> which is Apple's comprehensive document on using VoiceOver.  It's
>>> available in PDF (use Preview to read) or mp3 files or podcasts, as
>>> well as Braille and other formats.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:26 AM, rayna424 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Group mode? Whats that? I can only write on walls if they write on
>>>> mine first. I can't access anyone's profiles to start any kind of
>>>> dialogue, other than commenting on people's status messages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eliza Cooper wrote:
>>>>> Hi Randi,
>>>>>   I used to use the gmail notifier on my pc, but since the Mac's
>>>>> mail application makes a noise whenever you get mail if it's open
>>>>> (even if you're doing something else), I haven't needed to get  
>>>>> it.  I
>>>>> don't know if that helps any.  Also, yes, I have a ton of trouble
>>>>> with
>>>>> facebook, and other than posting on people's walls and doing basic
>>>>> stuff, I've stopped bothering with it.  Hopefuly other people have
>>>>> more success/patience.
>>>>>   Eliza
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:51 AM, rayna424 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm  
>>>>>> finding
>>>>>> many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>> Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to
>>>>>> accomplish anything. Any pointers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Randi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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