Ok, so I'm waiting for Snow Leopard where we may find the voices of the new 
iPod Shuffle. The German voice sounds great. 

Pierre

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anne Robertson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


  Hello Søren and Pierre,


  Yes, you're right. No one has a choice of voice at login. I tried all 
possibilities this morning on a computer which I set up from scratch in French 
and the voice was still Alex.


  This would change if Apple provided a basic voice in every language into 
which VoiceOver is localised.


  Cheers,


  Anne




  On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:


    This is weird. It doesn't work for me either. I think this is because the 
changes in VO and the changes in the System Preferences are  only made for each 
user on the computer. When you are on the login screen, you aren't logged in to 
any users yet. I don't have any clue about how to change the voice on the login 
screen.
    Best regards
    Søren Jensen
    Mail & MSN:
    [email protected]
    Website:
    http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/


    On 08/04/2009, at 20.24, Pierre Heim wrote:


      Good evening folks,

      I understood the last post of Anne this way that the system voice you set 
in speech preverences is also active for the login window. In order to check if 
the problem is the Infovox voice I set Bruce to test this. So I restarted VO 
and logout/login and restarted but always the same result: Alex is still 
present and after login hte voices from the VO utility settings became active. 
Is this the correct behaviour or is something wrong here?

      Pierre

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Pierre Heim
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:13 PM
        Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


        Hi,

        the system voice is set to Klaus (my iPod syncs the menus with it) and 
the Leopard installation is with German localization. I think I will write a 
mail to Assistiveware the next days... Thanks so far.

        Greetings,
        Pierre

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Esther
          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:39 PM
          Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


          Hi Scott and Pierre,


          I remember that with the Leopard upgrade the default voice (until you 
actually finished the upgrade) was Fred. I've only used the different voice 
options earlier with VisioVoice (in French) and Tiger, and I don't run my 
Leopard account with a different language localization.  Tiger's support was 
more restrictive.  I thought that you could boot up your system in Leopard 
starting with another voice, but I haven't tried this myself.  I guess my 
question to Pierre would first be whether the computer was set up with a 
default localization in German (for the system, not just his account)?


          Anne would probably know whether a startup from scratch works with a 
voice other than Alex based on her experience with the French VoiceOver mailing 
list that she moderates.  Other than that, David Niemeijer at Assistiveware 
could probably tell you whether this is possible for a German login voice.  You 
could send a query to: 


          [email protected]


          or else send a post to the Assistiveware forums.  David reads this 
list, but a direct email will be faster.


          HTH


          On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


            I'm not sure you can change it. that is a problem unless Apple 
makes different languages a part of the VO package. Of course I could be wrong 
as well.

            On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Pierre Heim wrote:


              Hi Esther,

              I know this already (all voices are set to "Klaus" from the iVox 
package) but the problem is that these settings become only active after user 
login. I can activate VO for the login window but I cannot find an option to 
change the voice used for this window. After login everything works fine.

              Pierre

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Esther
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:13 PM
                Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


                Hello Pierre,


                Pierre Heim wrote:

                  is it possible to change the voice for the login window? Alex 
sounds fine but not for German localization *g*

                To change the voice (for example, to Klaus or Sarah from the 
Infovox iVox German voices), bring up the VoiceOver utility with VO-F8, press 
's' to select "Speech" in the table of utility categories, then tab to the pane 
for setting voices. You'll hear "Voices, selected tab 1 of 2". You can select 
and choose settings for the Voice you use for Default Voice, Content, Status, 
Type, Attributes, and VoiceOver menu announcements.  VO-Right arrow to the pop 
up buttons beside each category and press (VO-Space), then use arrow keys and 
letters to select your voice from all the available options.  VO-Right arrow to 
set default rate, pitch, and volume for each voice. You can do this either by 
typing a number between 1 and 100 in the text field or by using your up and 
down arrow keys on the adjusters when you VO-Right arrow past the text field 
inputs.  


                You can also edit pronunciation by choosing the Pronunciation 
tab of the Speech options in VoiceOver Utility.  Use either VO-Right Arrow from 
the Voices tab or item chooser menu (VO-I) and type "t a b" to navigate to the 
Pronunciation tab, then return.  VO-Space on the tab to select it. VO-Right 
arrow and interact with the table for examples of text words or phrases and the 
substituted pronunciation. To add a pronunciation fix, stop interacting with 
the table and VO-Right to the "Add" button and press (VO-Space).  A 
pronunciation dialog window will come up, with prompts for you to enter the 
text you wish to edit and the new pronunciation, along with the group 
categories/applications in which you wish this to be used. There are buttons to 
"play", "cancel" or "save" that will close the dialog window.  When you're 
finished, use Command-W to close the VoiceOver Utility window.


                Cheers,


                Esther






























  

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