Technically all Core2-Duo based Macs have the 64-bit architecture, and  
that applies to Intel Macs manufactured after around October 2006.  OS  
X is already providing support for 64-bit applications, and Snow  
Leopard is supposed to help us transition to a 64-bit based operating  
system. VMWare can support 64-bit Vista and XP on a MacBook.  However,  
native BootCamp support of 64-bit Vista is only for "professional"  
models like the early 2008 Mac Pro, the early 2008 17" MacBook Pro,  
and the early and late 2008 15" MacBook Pro laptops.  I haven't run  
into problems with this Java version (that I know of). I'm relying on  
Software update to alert me to the correct product updates.  But if  
you want the page for the update to Java 1.6 here it is:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/javaformacosx105update1.html

Cheers,

Esther

On May 12, 2009, at 8:35 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
> oh how do we know if we are running a 64 bit mac. i have a macbook
> model 4.1
>
> On 12 May 2009, at 19:28, Esther wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> I think the java plugin is supposed to be part of your java
>> installation.  I was using DOM mode navigation. When I switched to
>> group mode navigation VO-Right arrow from the Speed Test heading got
>> me to the message: "Do not use your internet connection while the  
>> test
>> is in progress.  Press "Start" to begin." but I had to use item
>> chooser menu to find the start button and somehow my cursor didn't
>> route to the right place when I didn't have my cursors tracking.  Can
>> you try setting to DOM mode for web navigation of these pages?  Also,
>> check your installed browser plug-ins in Safari under the help menu
>> (VO-M to menubar, press "h" to Help, arrow down and find installed
>> plug-ins).  On the page that is displayed, you should find a listing
>> for "Java Plug-In for Cocoa" and lots of entries for java applet
>> versions.  I'm runnning  Java1.5 -- the highest version number listed
>> among the entries. There's a Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 1 that  
>> adds
>> Java SE 6 version 1.6.0_05 to the underlying installation, but that's
>> only for 64-bit Intel macs, so software updater doesn't pick that up
>> for me and I'm not running it.
>>
>> I'd try either DOM mode navigation or turning your cursor tracking on
>> ("Mouse cursor follows VoiceOver cursor etc. under VoiceOver  
>> Utlility)
>> and using item chooser menu to find the start button if you're using
>> group mode web navigation.
>>
>> I don't think I loaded anything extra for Java, but this MacBook was
>> manufactured in August 2008, I think.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In trying this here, I can't  find the start button on this site.
>>> I've checked to make sure java is enabled,and  it is.  COuld there  
>>> be
>>> a plugin or something  that I don't have, and have to get?
>>> On May 12, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> What you can do is run a Google search for "speed test java".  The
>>> issue is that the results may depend on geographical area, so I  
>>> don't
>>> know what works for Will in the UK.  If I use:
>>>
>>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?java=1
>>>
>>> and VO-Down Arrow from the "Speed Test" heading, I'll get links to a
>>> number of sites to try (e.g., San Francisco, Palo Alto, Los Angeles,
>>> and some point in New Jersey).  The test results depend on the  
>>> site I
>>> choose -- it's better to choose a site nearby to send upload and
>>> download packets.
>>>
>>> After choosing a site, the page reloads, and if you VO-Down Arrow
>>> from
>>> the "Speed Test" heading you'll reach the start button.  VO-Space to
>>> press it.  You can use your arrow keys (e.g. VO-Up Arrow) to get
>>> information about the test in progress.  If you arrow around you'll
>>> find out when they start the upload and download tests and there is
>>> even a progress bar indicator.  It may take a minute or so to  
>>> finish.
>>>
>>> When the test ends the page will update, and you'll hear "HTML
>>> content".  Results are reported as either graphics or text. Use item
>>> chooser menu to find "results" in text format on the page and select
>>> (VO-space).  VO-Down Arrow to read the results.
>>>
>>> You might want to wait until a low traffic time to try this.  I  
>>> think
>>> you're only allowed a certain number of tries (like 20 per server)  
>>> as
>>> a non-subscriber, and although I ran a number of tests two or three
>>> hours ago, I just get server busy messages now when I press the  
>>> start
>>> button, and they appear to count as "tries".
>>>
>>> This is obviously a U.S. based site.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>> On May 12, 2009, at 4:49 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of the speed test things I've found were Flash based and
>>>> inaccessible. A brute force way to do it would be to download a
>>>> reasonably large file from a known fast service and time it. One
>>>> possibility is downloading the AOL Mac installer from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/dnld_aol/aol_sell.adp
>>>>
>>>> which is 18.6MB. So if you download it and it takes 10 seconds then
>>>> you
>>>> know that you're getting around 1.8MB/s. I also found a site that
>>>> does
>>>> something like this and presents the results as HTML text so it is
>>>> accessible:
>>>>
>>>> http://us.mcafee.com/root/speedometer/default.asp
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>> william lomas wrote:
>>>>> hi is there an accessible site for us voiceover users, to gain our
>>>>> speed tests for our internet connections?
>>>>> Will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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