lol alex
On May 30, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> My bad. My typo.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 30-May-09, at 2:42 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
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>>
>> OH ok I'm sorry.  You said aple not apple.  Then we had a
>> missunderstanding.
>>
>> J
>> On May 30, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No. I'm working with *Apple*. If Apple does it, it is different.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30-May-09, at 2:35 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you just declare that such meddling is illegal, and yet you
>>>> are
>>>> now admitting that you have been engaged in it?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>> On May 30, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are curently working with Aple on the same project, so the boat
>>>>> has
>>>>> floated. Come join us. E-mail me off-list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30-May-09, at 2:08 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi greg,
>>>>>> i have been awaiting to ask you all those braille questions.
>>>>>> if a fondation for the blind in italy wants to develop those
>>>>>> tables
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> there a way to colaborate con apple?
>>>>>> this fondation already does it for jaws ...
>>>>>> rk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno 30/mag/09, alle ore 22:53, Greg Kearney ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's nonsense Apple is just using the old NFBtrans braille
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>>>>>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/05/2009, at 2:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Red Flag. This is "Reverse Engineering" and is not allowed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30-May-09, at 1:34 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i would be interested in this as well.
>>>>>>>>> rk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 30/mag/09, alle ore 10:57, Jesper Holten ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi ann.
>>>>>>>>>> How do one go about making a braille table used by voiceover?
>>>>>>>>>> I would be most obliged for any help you can provide me!
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Anne Robertson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: French Braille
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Rossy,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Italian Braille can be added if someone can find the 8-dot
>>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>>> for all the characters. You might like to try the French
>>>>>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> see whether the accents and punctuation are the same as in
>>>>>>>>>>> Italian.
>>>>>>>>>>> The French table certainly includes some Spanish punctuation
>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> the reverse exclamation mark.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 27, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi ann,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i am so happy that this discussion came up. i live in italy
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>> the other day i discussed with a tecnical man of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> structure about the braille tables. can somebody explain to
>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is possibile. this man is a pc fan , and he sostains that
>>>>>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> is limited because no one can develop the local language
>>>>>>>>>>>> tables
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the braille displays .
>>>>>>>>>>>> as you know we all hope that sl comes up with different
>>>>>>>>>>>> sustem
>>>>>>>>>>>> languages , which in it self solves the problem , but i
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> know if it is possibile to interact with the tables just to
>>>>>>>>>>>> killl
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> other pregiudices against our mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope i was comprihensive...
>>>>>>>>>>>> rossy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 27/mag/09, alle ore 12:45, Anne Robertson ha
>>>>>>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello David,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My husband did the coding, but if you could send us a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>> containing the Norwegian Braille codes, he could make one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Norwegian, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What we need are the 8-dot Braille patterns for each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> character.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, the basic alphabet is the same for all  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> languages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latin alphabet, but accented letters and punctuation often
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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