Hi, I was working with Garrage sale last year and it was about 99% accessible, except for several check boxes to do with selections for shipping methods. The developer responded very favourably to my request to have them labeled, but said that the labeling system they tried wasn't working with the software they were using to translate gs into other languages. They also didn't want to place labels in that wouldn't translate and they were worried about how vo would handle the labels when other languages were being used for accessibility. So, it wasn't just a straight matter of plunk in some labels to tidy things up and be done. I guess you never know what really goes on behind the scenes some times.
Taking all that into account it would have been nice to have the option to make my own labels. Some one was doing that for popular apps using a library file or something last year, but this would be something I could presumably do myself with no programming experience required, and a program like GS would have an impact on my productivity. It might be an income stream or even my livelyhood. At least it is for some people, and if I were one, I would need it to work, and I wouldn't care how it worked, as long as it got done quickly and efficiently. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: [email protected] On 10-Jun-09, at 3:54 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > Woo, subject line dramatic enough? Panic stations!! > > Seems to me that this is a far call from a scripting language. Also > seems that elements would have to expose themselves to VO in some > capacity for it to work at all, all be it unlabeled ones, so > developers themselves might use this as a quick and dirty fix until a > stage of the development cycle presents itself where they're back > getting their hands dirty at whatever level they'd need to be at to > pop a few labels into the code. It's a feature that'll at least give > us a few options when tackling a not-quite-accessible app surely. > > I'm waiting to see it in action first I think, but I'm imagining a > feedback email to Apple already that says congrats on a useful new > feature, and to gently remind them that while it's cool to have the > option and I appreciate being able to do some work on apps myself, it > still would often require sighted help or help from the developer, so > could they be sure to keep tooting access out of the box whenever they > can to make sure that devs don't see this one as a way out. Access > out of the box and this are quite different, but it's still a marked > improvement on the current setup imho. > > On 6/10/09, Justin Harford <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The subject line here is complete nonsense. >> On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Brent Harding wrote: >> >>> >>> Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is >>> is that >>> it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label >>> things >>> we find in apps that haven't been fixed yet. Without that, we'd just >>> have to >>> live with the unknown unlabeled buttons that are around now and >>> then. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alex Jurgensen" <[email protected]> >>> To: "MacVisionaries" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:45 PM >>> Subject: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Did you guys see the feature to add descriptions to elements. It >>>> sounds a lot like FS's JAWS Scripts, don't you think. >>>> >>>> I think we should bprevent this from happening before it gets out >>>> of >>>> hand. Too many developers will take that as the easy way out. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
