Yeah thanks for trying to help, but I am aware of the jestures and have read that file and read them other places. Possibly you misunderstood what I was looking for with my questions?
On 7/9/09, Simon Cavendish <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello James, > > In a hurry, I paste underneath a summary of Voiceover gestures put > together by Bill - a member of the VIPhone list. It might help. > > See below my signature. Best wishes, Simon > > When VoiceOver is turned on, the standard touchscreen gestures have > different results. These and additional gestures allow you to move > around the screen and to control the individual elements when theyíre > selected. VoiceOver gestures include using two and three fingers to > tap or flick. For best results using two- and three-finger gestures, > relax and let your fingers touch the screen naturally. > > You can use many different techniques to enter VoiceOver gestures. For > example, you can enter a two-finger tap using two fingers from one > hand, or one finger from each hand. You can also use your thumbs. Try > different techniques to discover which works best for you. > > Following is a summary of some of the VoiceOver gestures. > Navigate and Read > > * > > Tap: Speak item. > * > > Flick right or left: Select next or previous item. > * > > Flick up or down: Depends on Rotor Control setting. See Rotor > Control. > * > > Two-finger tap: Stop speaking current item. > * > > Two-finger flick up: Read all from top of screen. > * > > Two-finger flick down: Read all from current position. > * > > Three-finger flick up or down: Scroll one page at a time. > * > > Three-finger flick right or left: Go to next or previous page > (such as Home screen, Stocks, Safari). > * > > Three-finger tap: Speak the scroll status (which page or rows > are visible). > > Select and Activate > > * > > Double-tap: Activate selected item. > * > > Touch an item with one finger, tap the screen with another > finger (ìsplit tappingî): Activate item. > * > > Double-tap and hold (1 second) + standard gesture: Use a > standard gesture. > > The double-tap and hold gesture tells iPhone to interpret the > subsequent gesture as a standard one. For example, you can double-tap > and hold, then without lifting your finger, drag your finger to slide > a switch. > * > > Two-finger double tap: Answer or end a call. Play or pause > (iPod, YouTube, Voice Memos, Photos). Take a picture (Camera). Start > or pause recording (Camera, Voice Memos). > * > > Three-finger double tap: Mute or unmute VoiceOver. > * > > Three-finger triple tap: Turn the screen curtain on or off. > > NOTE: Single-finger flicking gestures must be done quickly to > distinguish them from dragging gestures. > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 07:14, James Mannion wrote: > >> >> Hello everyone, >> I would post this on the VIPhones list, but I ahve not yet been >> approved as a member and I see there is discussion of it here as well. >> I just purchased one yesterday and am very hopeful for it to be able >> to become my primary device as a phone and portable internet access >> device without the limitations of most portable internet stuff. Here >> has been my biggest quandry so far though and I really wish I knew >> this could be worked out. When reading longer passages of text, such >> as an email would be (which I don't yet have setup on mine) I have >> noticed that Voiceover treats a text passage as one single element. >> Therefore taping it reads it from beginning to end with the only >> control over it that I know of being to stop it from reading and then >> read either by word or by character. Sometimes both of these options >> are important and certainly need to be there, but is there any other >> way to control the chunks by which you read and navigate that text >> passage? Sometimes the entire thing is too much to take in as one all >> or nothing read and to get through by word to find a particular spot >> could be impractical to get to something say in the second page >> somewhere to review what it said? Do you know if any trick works to >> have it read say a text passage that is multiple screens in length by >> screen at least? I do not think there is a way by line although I >> really, really hope they add it as it is extremely important to have >> navigation options. Is there any way to manipulate such a text that >> you might receive in an email or be reading on a web page such that >> you could at the very least read it screen by screen and navigate >> through any of those by word then if necessary to zero in on >> something? I know there is a previous and next page command with the >> 3 finger flick down and up commands, but can those be made to work >> with a text passage that in itself spans multiple screens? I don't >> have an example available on the device at this moment, but know from >> my experience that this worries me. I do love the device and really >> want it to become what I cary and use in practical ways. It can >> certainly do awesome things. I am at the beginning of its learning >> curve, but that is fine. My Nokia n82 is awesome with talks and will >> definitely be kept and used, but I would love if the IPhone can become >> primary because of all it can do and the fact that it is accessibility >> built right in! >> >> Jim >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
