Hello James and all:

Well, I can give an example of the power of the item chooser which  
might shed some light.

When using facebook in the beginning I was completely lost.  
Specifically, as you know, there is a feature on facebook which allows  
you to send a private message to someone. For the life of me I could  
not find the edit boxes where one was supposed to enter the text. And,  
if I did find it using conventional browsing techniques, the edit  
boxes lost focus.

When activating the item chooser I could type in the word edit and get  
a limited number of choices, and the first three choices were the edit  
fields I required to enter text. I could enter the text without losing  
focus and I could find the send button by performing the same  
activation of the item chooser, typing send which pulled up the send  
button and then using vo keys plus the space bar to activate the send  
button.

The item chooser will assist person's in finding things that are there  
though might be difficult to get to.

I know that might sound like either an over simplification or an item  
specific example and Josh most likely could do a better job in  
explaining. However, this feature is, as Josh said, not just useful on  
the web. It has assisted me in successfully using applications such as  
iphoto ...

Hopefully that sheds a little light on the topic for you and hopefully  
you find some of this useful.

Take good care.
On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:31 AM, James & Nash wrote:

>         Hello Josh,
>
> Could you please explain a bit more about how exactly it is more  
> powerful? Everytime I've used it Item Chooser seemed to be just a  
> smart search that was clever enough to only show results which  
> contained certain letters.
>
> Thanks
>
> James
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Josh de Lioncourt
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:49 AM
> Subject: Re: searching for specefic text on a webpage
>
>
> VoiceOver has a function called "Item Chooser" which is available  
> anywhere, not just on the web. When you press it, it brings up a  
> sort of menu of everything being displayed in the window. If you  
> type a few letters in, the menu shrinks to only include items which  
> contain the letters you typed. It is actually much nicer than a  
> traditional find command, as you are describing, and a whole lot  
> more powerful. :)
>
> HTH.
>
>
> Josh de Lioncourt
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> On Jul 17, 2009, at 4:30 PM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, Currently on windows I use hal 7.0 and webformator for  
>> surfing the web. Webformator displays the webpage in a sort of text- 
>> file which allows you to just browse it, i mean go through it all  
>> with arrow up/down and tab to go to link/link. You can use (and  
>> that is the one great feature I love about webformator) control-f  
>> to search for specefic text in a webpage. Since it is a text file  
>> (sort off, you can stiull click on links) it does not restrict you  
>> to link but will also instantly point you to a word in the actual  
>> body of the webpage, i often visit forums etc that I know quite  
>> well and find this feature very useful because it means I can  
>> navigate them quickly and efficiently. Also since,      once again  
>> its a text file I can search for for example combobox in the  
>> control-f dialog and it will bring me to the first of these. I  
>> wonder if anything like this exists in safari-voiceover? I am  
>> actually hoping that transition will be easier for me becaus eI hav  
>> emostly been using a kin dof dumb screenreader, just using the  
>> windows commands and not many screenreader ocmmands at all so I am  
>> hoping I will be able to adapt quickly.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> >

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Love

Me


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