Hi,

3.2.1 or something has a tripple tap of the home button to launch it.

Though this is in beta it was posted here a while back.

Regards,
Alex,


On 19-Jul-09, at 4:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> James,
>
> It's a fair point about not being able to run voiceover on the iPhone
> unaided without access to iTunes.  What I'd like to see in an update
> is the ability to launch and disable VO with a voice command.  I've
> emailed Apple about it and got a hopeful response.  I'm guessing that
> seeing as the Nano's and Shuffle's need to be activated with iTunes
> Apple went for consistancy, either that or it or the idea didn't occur
> to them.
>
> You have to admit though that being able to activate it yourself even
> through iTunes is a lot closer to true out of the box accessibility
> than blundering your way through a Symbian time/date setup and an
> instalation of your prefered screen reader, or worse still, relying on
> Nokia's Voiceaid offering.
>
> Scott
>
> On 7/19/09, James & Nash <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I have not seen one yet, but I am going to spend some time with an  
>> Apple rep
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> I agree, it is really nice to see a mainstream vender include a  
>> Screen
>> Reader for no extra cost, but then the IPhone is considerably more  
>> expensive
>> than other models but then you have to pay for Talks or Mobile  
>> Speak. The
>> only thing I would disagree with is the view that the IPhone is  
>> accessible
>> "out of the box". From all that I've read and heard, we cannot turn  
>> VO on
>> ourselves without access to ITunes - so if we do not have access to  
>> it
>> immediately, then we cannot access the phone by ourselves. Perhaps  
>> this is a
>> literal take on the phrase "accessible out of the box", but then  
>> the phrase
>> lends itself to that way of thinking.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it
>>> new but the n eighty two does everything that does
>>>
>>> Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the  
>>> entire
>>> User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI  
>>> that
>>> can only increase a VI user's often lacking knowledge of all things
>>> layout.  There's so many pro's and cons to each device for each  
>>> user.
>>> If Symbian and actual buttons will always float your boat more then
>>> fair enough, use it and prosper, it's here to stay for a while yet.
>>> But Dismissing one of the few big accessibility efforts made by a
>>> mainstream vender as the same old same old with a gimicky new touch
>>> screen thing before you've even had experience with it is an  
>>> attitude
>>> that will ensure we're always slightly behind the trend with
>>> technology, so well done you.
>>>
>>> Slightly ranty perhaps, but I hope you see my point.  And in case I
>>> get labeled an iPhone fanatic, I don't own one.  I've tinkered and
>>> mostly enjoyed the experience, seemed to me that any barriers I felt
>>> like I was facing with the device were entirely due to my lack of
>>> experience with an interface where I'm closer to being even with any
>>> sighted user than I've ever been before.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/19/09, william lomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it new but  
>>>> the n
>>>> eighty two does everything that does
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Jul 2009, at 09:35, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour
>>>>> today and
>>>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity.
>>>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones  
>>>>> system
>>>>> is not
>>>>> as efficient  yet as I would have hoped.
>>>>>
>>>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I  
>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>> change
>>>>> to one at this point,  and the only reason so far is that my n82  
>>>>> does
>>>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is  
>>>>> so
>>>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's  
>>>>> probably
>>>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
>>>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in  
>>>>> to this
>>>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a  
>>>>> slow
>>>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be
>>>>> quickly affixed.
>>>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone  
>>>>>> 3gs, are
>>>>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired  
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
>>>>>> totally blind
>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage /  
>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> my Nokia s60 device.
>>>>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I  
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> say I'm
>>>>>> fixed on it yet.
>>>>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simonf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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