Thank you very much for this info.  We've not gotten the TV yet, but  
we're really starting to look into it.  I have a Bose system that is  
about six or seven years old and I need to check into the type of  
digital input it uses, but I think this will all work.
On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> Depending on how new this LCD TV is, You will need either the Mini- 
> DVI to DVI or Mini-DVI to HDMI adapters. As you may or may not know,  
> you'll also need a cable with a toslink male connecter on one end  
> and a mini Toslink on the other for hooking the Mini digitally to  
> your surround system. MonoPrice has these as well. The one I linked  
> to is three feet, but they have much longer.
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041912&p_id=4851&seq=1&format=2
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041912&p_id=4852&seq=1&format=2
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=1556&seq=1&format=2
>
> HTH,
> Blake
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: mac mini without monitor and set up
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:32:06 -0400
>
> Blake, with these newer LCD TVs, which is the best method for  
> connecting lets say a Mac Mini?  I'm not sure how most folk would be  
> connecting their Apple TV, but I've been thinking a Mac Mini would  
> offer me the ability to have a real media Center.  I'd like to  
> connect it to our surround system and we would put all our DVDs on  
> an external drive so no one would have to pull a DVD from a case,  
> but instead just use something like Front Row to select and play the  
> movie.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> It is possible to send signals to a tv with a composite or S-Video  
> input. It's just not as straight forward. What you need to do is  
> purchase a Mini-DVI to VGA adapter. You could also purchase a Mini  
> DisplayPort to VGA adapter and have two monitors connected at the  
> same time. You then need to purchase a VGA to Composite / S-Video  
> converter to convert the VGA signal to Composite. This converter  
> requires power and takes up one USB port on the mini. I think the  
> only adapter rendered useless is the Mini-DVI to video adapter. The  
> other various adapters should work fine.
>
> I prefer to get my adapters from monoprice.com since they're cheaper  
> than apple's, and you'll need to purchase the VGA to RCA Composite S- 
> Video converter (linked below) from there depending on whether or  
> not you want to hook up a TV with a composite input. I haven't found  
> any other place for this converter. When you try and use the Mini- 
> DVI to video adapter, you get weird lines scrolling down the screen..
>
> Here are the MonoPrice links to the Mini-DVI to VGA adapter, the  
> Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter and VGA to RCA Composite / S-Video  
> converter respectively. If anyone has any questions about this, feel  
> free to ask.
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041912&p_id=4850&seq=1&format=2
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=5107&seq=1&format=2
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011407&p_id=4724&seq=1&format=2
>
> HTH,
> Blake
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: mac mini without monitor and set up
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:50:09 -1000
>
> Hi Blake,
>
> Thanks for checking.  The Mini-DVI to video adapter sounds as though  
> it's the one we identified in the "Slow Mac Mini" thread in the list  
> archive:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02152.html
>
> I've linked to the post that gives Apple Store links to the  
> connector used for both the older Mac minis with the DVI to video  
> adapter and the Mini-DVI to video adapter used for the Mac minis  
> made after March 2009 (new version link appears first).
>
> Do you know whether it's possible to send output to a TV with any  
> connector or combination of connectors on the new Mac Minis (or any  
> Apple device which has a mini-DVI output instead of the older DVI  
> output)?  As far as I know, that may not be possible.  Sending video  
> output to a TV is something that the older Mac Minis and MacBooks  
> can do, but I'm not sure I've read anywhere that it's possible  
> through a Mini-DVI connector.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
> I've done some further testing. Using the new 2009 model Mac Mini, I  
> hooked up the Mini-DVI to video adapter and launched Safari and  
> browsed a few pages. Then, I unplugged the adapter and restarted the  
> Mini. Once again, I launched Safari. It was quite unresponsive. It  
> appears this adapter still works on the new Mac Minis.
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: mac mini without monitor and set up
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:25:47 -1000
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Marie, you might want to check whether running without a monitor  
> will
> > present a problem for the current generation Mac Mini and whether
> > using an adapter helps at all in this case. The reason for  
> exercising
> > some care here is that after the last round of discussions, where we
> > hypothesized which new connector would work with the new model mini,
> > additional information came to light that not only was the form  
> factor
> > of the video connector plug different, but it also passed signals  
> in a
> > different fashion. Previously, the connector passed analog signals,
> > and it was not possible for your computer to check via the feedback
> > whether or not your computer was connected to a monitor via that
> > connector. In the video out port connections of the new model mini,
> > no analog signal gets passed and it's all digital. That means it's
> > possible for the system to check whether there is a monitor  
> present at
> > the other end. Other features dependent on the connector have also
> > changed, and I don't think you can play movies on a TV from your
> > computer if you are using the new digital only video connector  
> ports.
> > That's not true of the older model Macs (or the older MacBooks).
> >
> > So far I don't think we have any users who report they're using the
> > new Mini without a monitor (with or without an adapter at the end).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Esther
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2009, at 13:10, Dan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > When you start the machine for the first time, you will hear the
> > > music. Then an announcement about if you already know how to use
> > > VoiceOver, just press Command F5 to start VO. You can set it up
> > > yourself. I have set up my different Macs without sighted  
> assistance.
> > > Dan
> > > On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hey,
> > >> I already have a macbook and I'm thinking of getting a mac  
> mini. I
> > >> know if you don't have the monitor you need the adapter to make  
> the
> > >> mini think there is one to prevent sluggish behaviour. My  
> question
> > >> is,
> > >> how would you set up the mac independently without sighted
> > >> assistance?
> > >> I had to have someone hit the start voice over assistive set up  
> thing
> > >> on my mac book when I got it. but if you don't have a monitor,  
> can
> > >> this be achieved some way? I've never reinstalled my leopard yet,
> > >> although I understand it can be done. simply, can I set up my mac
> > >> mini
> > >> without sighted assistance?
> > >> thanks Marie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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