Makes sense. So if I have four rows with A B C and D. I select rows B and D and then hit shift option up I would now have rows B A D and C. Hitting up again gives B D A and C. Is this what users would expect? Normally I would think folks would be trying to cherry pick rows they care about and drop them as a cluster somewhere. The method you proposed sounds like it could get confusing quickly. Say I want to move all my favorite songs to the top of a playlist from random locations in a long list. I might pick rows 7, 12, 22, 30, 42 and 56. To get them all to the top I would need to option up arrow a bunch of times to sort of scrunch them all together at the top. What if I wanted to put my second favorites after the previous 6 tracks. Would I need to scrunch them at the top and then drag them down to the 7th row? I guess I'm arguing that all the selected rows should be inserted in the destination rather than interleaving.
Hope this helps. CB Martin Pilkington wrote: > Hi Chris, > > All rows get nudged up one space. When you reach the top or bottom of > a table then they get nudged together. For example, if you have rows 2 > and 4 selected and hit shift-option-up then the they will move up to > be rows 1 and 3. Then if you hit shift-option-up again row 1 won't > move as it is at the top but row 3 will, so they will now be rows 1 > and 2. > > I have a sample application up at http://dropbox.mcubedsw.com/M3TableView.zip > . As I said, once you have selected some rows you just hit shift- > option and either the up or down arrow to shift the rows up or down. > Hopefully it feels easier than current methods. > > Martin > > On 27 Jul 2009, at 10:05 pm, Chris Blouch wrote: > > >> What happens if I have multiple discontiguous rows selected and I >> option >> up arrow? Do all the rows get inserted one row above where the top >> selected row used to be? Probably the worst case scenario for >> complexity >> but something to consider. >> >> CB >> >> Martin Pilkington wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I haven't posted for a while so for those who don't remember me, my >>> name is Martin and I'm a Mac software developer. I'm currently having >>> a problem with making one of my applications accessible, but in an >>> easy to use way. There is a lot of drag & drop functionality in my >>> application. Some of it is easy, such as using copy and paste to get >>> items from the library to the collections (like with putting songs >>> into playlists in iTunes). However, some of it is hard, such as re- >>> arranging items. You can do copy/cut and paste but this is a bit >>> awkward. I've also been pointed to how to do drag & drop with voice >>> over but to me that seems quite tedious. >>> >>> I believe I have a solution that seems to me like it would be a lot >>> simpler, but I wanted to get the opinion of some blind users about >>> whether they would find it more useful. The solution is that if you >>> hold down the option key and press the up or down arrow keys, it will >>> move the selected table rows up or down one place. To me it seems to >>> be a better way to re-arrange items with a keyboard for all users, >>> but >>> the main aim of it is to improve accessibility. I will end up open >>> sourcing any solution and pushing for other developers to include it >>> in their applications so hopefully it can become some sort of a >>> standard. >>> >>> Any thoughts anyone has would be much appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
