Jon  that may be true, but a few things to keep in mind.  First it may  
not even be an Apple drive, it could be your external drive or even a  
Time Capsule drive.  Additionally the utility can keep a file system  
in good order, so it does more than just recover the data and  
truthfully I try to hang onto machines that are beyond their  
warranty.  I understand what your saying, but having the tools  
available to take care of any drive may be really a good idea.  I've  
had drives I sure wish I had a utility like this to recover data  
from. :)
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> I had to run Disk Warrior once on my childrens's e-mac computer. The
> disk had enough errors that it took 3-4 days to recover data. There
> were 100's  of files (mostly system files) that it could not recover,
> but I was able to reteive most of their documents.  I then did a full
> format and restored the system.  If your computer is under
> maintencnace and has not suffered from abuse, I would just let the
> apple store give you a new hard disk. They can charge a small fee to
> store all the information on the HD and migrate it to the new disk.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> I imagine Apple will charge the same as the vendor online, $99.95.
>> Ironically, I found a message someone had sent to another list about
>> this product and it apparently is the real deal.  So, I'm giving some
>> thought to purchasing it myself.  I've been very lucky in that I have
>> not lost any drives and I do have backups, but there is always that
>> one chance and with a kid, well, hell, anything is possible.
>> On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Before you or anyone else does anything, make sure that you've
>>> cloaned
>>> your drive. Software wise, hsf is some what of a nightmair to  
>>> recover
>>> files from so before any data recovery apps try and mess with
>>> anything, its important that you have an at least partially working
>>> copy of your hard drive stored somewhere.
>>>
>>> On 30/07/2009, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, thanks for all this.  Smart status does in deed say varified.
>>>>
>>>> Do you remember off hand how much the apple store might charge me
>>>> for
>>>> disc warrier?  I'm looking it up on the apple store online now, but
>>>> if
>>>> it's not expensive, say, under the $100 mark, I might just buy it
>>>> from
>>>> the apple store and let the geneus handle it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> On 30-Jul-09, at 5:33 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Erik,
>>>>>
>>>>> One quick question: when you run Disk Utility what reading do you
>>>>> get
>>>>> when you select the hard drive above "Macintosh HD" on the  
>>>>> sidebar?
>>>>> That is, when you VO-Up arrow to something that says (for example,
>>>>> 232.9 GB Fujitsu etc.)  Use item chooser menu to go to "selected
>>>>> disk
>>>>> image" and then VO-Right arrow and interact with the part that
>>>>> begins
>>>>> "Disk Description".  There should be an announcement of  
>>>>> "S.M.A.R.T.
>>>>> Status:"  Does it say "verified" after that announcement?
>>>>>
>>>>> You can sometimes recover from this with Alsoft's "Disk Warrior"
>>>>> but
>>>>> there are accessibility issues running from the DVD, I think.  If
>>>>> it's
>>>>> on a cloned disk you can run it on your home disk drive through  
>>>>> the
>>>>> clone. If you have a local Apple Store nearby, they can probably
>>>>> run
>>>>> this as a diagnostic on your hard drive.  They might be willing to
>>>>> go
>>>>> ahead and run it on your hard drive if you bought a copy of the
>>>>> software from the store (though it's slightly cheaper from the web
>>>>> download.)  And you should probably have a new hard drive to copy
>>>>> to
>>>>> before things get seriously worse and unrecoverable. Disk Warrior
>>>>> does
>>>>> work to recover in instances such as you describe, although given
>>>>> the
>>>>> circumstances I would ask at my local Apple Store and try to have
>>>>> them
>>>>> run this.  I'm sure that every Genius bar has a copy of this.   
>>>>> They
>>>>> can run the diagnosis for you even if they won't run the recovery.
>>>>> You should know that there is a possibility of introducing
>>>>> problems in
>>>>> doing the recover mode, but in most instances it just works, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> problems are minimal.  In that case, if your disk has really gone
>>>>> south the amount of work you'd have to do to get the problem areas
>>>>> fully recovered without these glitches is quite major, and  
>>>>> probably
>>>>> beyond your scope.  Disk Warrior does work very well, although I
>>>>> haven't had to use it for quite a while -- since first upgrading  
>>>>> to
>>>>> Leopard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Esther
>>>>>
>>>>> erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi friends.  I think something is rong with my apple hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 or four weeks ago I started having checksums fail when I  
>>>>>> coppied
>>>>>> things across the network from my old turion notebook to the
>>>>>> macbook
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it might be the disc on the other machine failing.  It
>>>>>> is 4
>>>>>> or 5 years old now after all.  But I've also noticed I can't run
>>>>>> digital voices like alex or ryan any more.  The system doesn't
>>>>>> stand
>>>>>> for it.  Even when I'm using fred or bruce vo restarts often,
>>>>>> programs
>>>>>> hang, and some times the whole system seems to go dead for a
>>>>>> minute,
>>>>>> the dvd drive resets, and then the system comes back to life as  
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> nothing had happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I loaded up my windows vm here and tried to mac catalog
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> music folder and the wimdows system told me some fo the files
>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>> be read.  I repaired the permissions on my drive, but I checked
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> log thuroughly and nothing in my home folder had corupt
>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a verify disc on the hard drive and everything came back  
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> even though I sorely suspect that not to be the case.  So, I
>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> off the cd and tried the varify, and it still says everything is
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> I suspect though that the hitacci hard drive in my macbook pro is
>>>>>> failing.  Is there any recorse for me somewhere in between disc
>>>>>> utility from the install cd and dropping my macbook off at the
>>>>>> apple
>>>>>> store for a couple of days?  A hitacci diagnostic that runs on  
>>>>>> mac
>>>>>> OS10 for example, or another more thurough apple friendly third
>>>>>> party
>>>>>> diagnostic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>>>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
>>>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>
>>> email: [email protected]
>>> msn: [email protected]
>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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