Thanks Ester, will give that a try.
On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Dan,
>
> In some cases, like ExpanDrive before the fix, the overall
> accessibility of the app is not affected because the same information
> is easily available through other menus or shortcuts and the status
> menu icon is simply a convenience. The only other thing you can try is
> navigating to the status menu bar (VO-M twice or Control-F8), then
> turn on Mouse Keys and try to move your cursor to the left,
> periodically checking what is under the mouse.  When you hear "button
> is under the mouse", you can try to route your mouse cursor there and
> click.
>
> Esther
>
> On Aug 17, 2009,  Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>
>>
>> Another one that i've found, and recently started using, is the Mac
>> version of Carbonite.  There's an option to display status in the  
>> menu
>> bar, but I'm not seeing it in my status menus, even though I have it
>> checked.  I've sent an email to them about this, so hopefully they'll
>> fix it.
>> On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Esther wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Gary, I took a look at Caffeine, and I'll outline how to get around
>>> the inaccessibility of the status menu bar icon via an AppleScript,
>>> since they the authors provided hooks for this.   However, this is  
>>> an
>>> issue I've seen with a few other apps, including a couple that have
>>> counterpart iPhone apps, and the link Benjamin posted to Apple
>>> Developer forums applies to these cases.  The issue of placing an
>>> icon
>>> on the status menu bar that VoiceOver can navigate to in ExpanDrive
>>> has been solved.  I don't know whether the developer used the  
>>> private
>>> API or the public API solution, but here's the background.  I
>>> reported
>>> the accessibility issue with the ExpanDrive status bar icon to the
>>> developer back in November.  When a member on another list enthused
>>> about this app (which allows you to integrate files on FTP and SFTP
>>> servers with your desktop GUI and Finder with a fast, robust
>>> interface
>>> and a lot of nifty features) and its accessibility a few months
>>> later,
>>> I asked whether you could now navigate to the icon on the status  
>>> menu
>>> bar with VoiceOver.  (This was not really an issue for the usability
>>> of the application with VO, since the menu bar is only one way to
>>> navigate the app.)  His first report back from the developer was  
>>> that
>>> they didn't think it was possible for apps that Apple didn't  
>>> release.
>>> However, I pointed out that the freebie tool, SoundSource, from  
>>> Rogue
>>> Amoeba used a status menu bar icon that VoiceOver could navigate to,
>>> and that it was also possible to get to the DropBox status bar icon
>>> and menu (albeit in a weird way -- you bring up window chooser menu
>>> and VO-F2 twice, then select "Untitled".  If your cursor is routed  
>>> to
>>> your mouse, you'll hear "Dropbox menu" and then you can click with
>>> TrackPad or Mouse to open the menu).  That led to the posts from the
>>> ExpanDrive folks and a fix to the service menu icon.
>>>
>>> For Caffeine, I found that opening the Application bundle with the
>>> contextual menu to "Show Package Contents" gave me a Caffeine.sdef
>>> file in the Resources folder.  That showed there were definitions to
>>> turn on or turn off Caffeine via AppleScript.  So you could create a
>>> "Turn On" AppleScript as follows:
>>>
>>> 1. Launch your Script Editor (with Spotlight, or by going to "/
>>> Applications/AppleScript/Script Editor" and opening the file)
>>> 2. Type or paste in the following line (You may want to change 3600
>>> to
>>> some other number -- this is the time in seconds, so the example I
>>> gave turns Caffeine on for 1 hour):
>>> tell application "Caffeine" to turn on for 3600
>>> 3. Compile the AppleScript with Command-K. (Optionally, run the
>>> script
>>> with Command-R)
>>> 4. Save the AppleScript with Command-S.  You can save it as a  
>>> script,
>>> in which case you'll have to run it (Command-R) to use it, or save  
>>> it
>>> as an application that will execute when opened (but then you won't
>>> be
>>> able to edit it to change the time; you could probably code this to
>>> prompt for the time to use).
>>>
>>> You can also create an AppleScript to turn Caffeine off, by pasting
>>> in:
>>> tell applications "Caffeine" to turn off
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be easier to go to your Energy
>>> Saver preferences (in the menu for the battery on your status menu
>>> bar) and just set the slider to never go to sleep mode when you want
>>> to make these changes?
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly the problem i'm having..  I wonder if he got a
>>>> response
>>>> to the question?
>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2009, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/08/2009 Gary wrote:
>>>>>> I installed it but found it not to be accessible
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears it adds an item to the Status Bar. I can't work out how
>>>>> to
>>>>> access that item with the keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if this is because of a similar problem to that described
>>>>> at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/accessibility-dev/2009/Apr/msg00007.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently you can script Caffeine with AppleScript. That might be
>>>>> an
>>>>> alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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