Hello Scott, I think you must have missed my earlier post on this subject.
The pauses are caused by new line characters. I think this was introduced to make the reading of documents, containing lists with their items only separated by new line characters, make more sense. You notice this when reading a table of contents. It often sounds as though the page number is the chapter number because there is just a new line character between them. Cheers, Anne On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Bret, I have started really listening and I think I see what folks > have been talking about. It's pretty easily ignored, but yet not; if > that makes sense. It's there, but perhaps the speed I use covers it > up some, but mention to [email protected] and the more folks > that mention this, the more likely it'll be addressed. I am curious > what the cause might be and if speed or some formats of mail etc. has > any affect. > On Aug 30, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: > >> >> At least in my case, choppy doesn't mean the speech is stuttered or >> anything like that. The reading is just sort of broken up a bit with >> funny pauses that causes the reading to flow less smoothly. This >> only >> occurs when reading an actual email message. It is happening on both >> my mini and MBP. >> >> Brett >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Well Fonzie, seems you have enough ram and horsepower, so that is >>> not >>> your issue. I still have not encountered this problem, but I have >>> encountered certain times when apps become busy with no reason >>> that I >>> can determine. I suspect there are some bumps to be worked out >>> despite all the testing that has been done. >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Fonzie wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi there Scott, how are youd oing? >>>> >>>> Sorry for the late reply. >>>> >>>> I noticed that Mail added all my AIM iMap folders upon installing >>>> Snow >>>> Leopard, and I just saw them just now. >>>> >>>> I was only used to seeing "Inbox", and now it shows all my folders >>>> associated with AIM Mail, like Spam, and such. >>>> >>>> A lot of the message from the list went into the Spam folder, so I >>>> am >>>> fixing that just now. >>>> >>>> As for what kind of mac I have. >>>> >>>> I bought my mac in August of 2008 >>>> >>>> So I have the folllowing: >>>> >>>> iMac Core 2 Duo 2.66GHZ >>>> 4G Ram >>>> ATI HD2600 Pro >>>> >>>> If there is anything else, let me know. >>>> >>>> Again, I apologize for the delayed response. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> Fonzie >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 30, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fonzie, what type of Mac do you have? I'm not encountering this >>>>> issue, >>>>> but I am looking to see if there is any patterns perhaps. Did you >>>>> do >>>>> a clean install or upgrade? >>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Fonzie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I second the no issue with choppy reading area. >>>>>> >>>>>> The sub menu thing? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have seen that happen once or twice. >>>>>> >>>>>> I mainly see it when I pull up the main menu bar though, where >>>>>> apple >>>>>> and program related menus are located. What seems to happen is, >>>>>> VoiceOver will stop speaking here and there, and only when >>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>> This only happens if I go into the menu bar, pull down any menu >>>>>> of >>>>>> my >>>>>> choosing, and read it's contents. Then, I leave the menu bar, >>>>>> and >>>>>> immediately pull it up once more, and pull down a menu of my >>>>>> choosing, >>>>>> VoiceOver begins the small silence issue, even when scrolling >>>>>> through >>>>>> the menu items. >>>>>> >>>>>> For now, I just solve this by doing the following. ONce I >>>>>> attempt >>>>>> to >>>>>> go into the menu bar the second time, I wait a couple of seconds, >>>>>> and >>>>>> pull down the menu of my choice. Either that, or I pull down the >>>>>> menu >>>>>> I want, and then wait a couple of seconds, and start scrolling >>>>>> afterwards. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fonzie >>>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Funny, I'm having no issues with submenus in Mail or any other >>>>>>> app I >>>>>>> have used so far. There seems to be some slightly roughness to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> reading, but not sure what the cause is and I noticed it only >>>>>>> as a >>>>>>> slight thing, but of course level of annoyance is subjective for >>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I'm glad you mentioned this. The mail is read choppy. >>>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>>> reads smooth as ever in Safari. I currently only have my rate >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> 50, >>>>>>>> so I don't think rate is causing it. I'm also having no luck >>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> sub menus to work, Such as when I try to move a message to >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brett >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:50 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that >>>>>>>>> voiceover >>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>> messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses >>>>>>>>> too >>>>>>>>> long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> option to have voiceover keep speaking normally as if that >>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>> did not occur in the middle of a sentence? >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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