For me, programming is a hobby which I can occasionally put to some good use. 
I'm very interested, as long as I needn't be a pro to participate.

js


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Hofstader 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:26 AM
  Subject: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo



  Hi,

  Since SL hit the streets on Friday there has been a bit of chatter on  
  this and other general purpose VO/Mac related lists  about AppleScript  
  and other programming tools and issues.  I like reading these because  
  I'm a crusty old hacker with deep running geek tendencies; on the  
  other hand, I would bet that most people really don't care as they  
  will never attempt to write a program or a VO script.

  I encourage everyone to do some sort of beginner programming tutorial  
  as just writing one or two very simple programs will help them  
  understand how and why computers do the things they do.  Such will  
  also build affinity for the other application developers and the gang  
  at Apple who bring us VO which will help one learn to be patient when  
  your favorite bug gets ignored for a pretty long time.

  With that said, though, I would assume that the average person really  
  doesn't want to touch on programming in a system language or do any  
  scripting.  Furthermore, they probably don't want to read what can  
  look like Chinese to the uninitiated.

  So, I propose an apple-hackers list for those of us who like a little  
  silicon under the fingernails so we can share ideas, techniques and  
  lend each other code so as to promote development and avoid wasting  
  time.  Anything I do will be GPL so people can download it from SVN on 
hofstader.com 
    (when I get it set up) and others will have their own ways of  
  distributing things.

  This has worked for the JAWS scripting and programming blind mailing  
  lists for over a decade and we members of one or both of them have had  
  the enjoyment of watching high school hackers go onto get a degree and  
  enter the workforce partially because we old-timers smack them around  
  a bit while pointing them in the right direction.

  The reason I don't recommend programming blind for us Macsters is that  
  it is almost 100% Windows and GNU/Linux people there and a sudden  
  invasion of Mac people might make some people pretty uncomfortable as  
  we're adding an entirely new platform to the mix and they neither know  
  the answers nor, in most cases, have a Mac around to help us with our  
  problem.

  What do you folks think?

  cdh

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