Hi erik,

Yes, one of the advertised features of Snow Leopard was an effort to  
make the same apps run in less space, and also to reduce the files  
that got loaded by default.  So no, it wasn't a question of Leopard  
starting out bloated, Apple tried to both reduce the size of standard  
applications and make the suite of applications run in a tighter  
configuration in Snow Leopard.

Here's a quote from a very early article (February) in Wired entitled  
"Leaked Snow Leopard Screenshots Reveal Slimmer, Faster Mac OS X":

<begin quote>
Apple’s suite of stock applications seem to have also gone on a strict  
diet and exercise regime, with nearly all the included apps radically  
reduced in size. For example, iChat in Leopard weighs in at 114MB  
while the Snow Leopard version drops to 22 MB, Dashboard goes from 184  
KB to 111 KB and Mail goes from 289 MB to 36 MB. Overall Snow  
Leopard’s application appear to save around a gig of drive space  
compared to Leopard.
<end quote>

However,  could it be that you still had copies of some of your music  
files stored in iTunes?  I don't think that the new OS accounts for  
all the difference.  Some of this may be that certain files won't be  
installed automatically by the base installation.  For example, I  
think you may to check that QuickTime gets installed.  Also, people  
who got the iLife '08 or iLife '09 suite had a lot of extras files  
added in, like Garage Band loops and sound effects.  As a followup to  
the ringtones discussion, I noted that there were a lot of sound  
effect files in the:
/Library/Audio/Apple Loops/Apple/
folder under two directories: "Apple Loops for Garageband" and "iLife  
Sound Effects".  The iLife Sound Effects are particularly nice for  
making ringtones, and under the "Work - Home" folder there were  
numerous sound of telephones ringing, wrong number messages, fax  
tones, etc.  These are .caf (core audio files), so they can't be used  
directly for ringtones by converting in iTunes -- they're basically  
like AIFF files but extended so that they aren't subject to the same 4  
GB size limit and number of tracks that AIFF has -- but they can be  
opened in Amadeus Pro and converted just by selecting the track  
(Command-A) and going to the File menu on the Amadeus menu bar (VO-M;  
Press "F" and arrow down)  and pressing "E" to go to "Export as iPhone  
Rightone…" then pressing return.  Accepting all defaults will generate  
a Ringtone soundclip and add it to your iTunes Ringtones directory.

These sound files also appear to be left out of the Snow Leopard  
install, since someone reported not being able to find them after  
doing a clean install to Snow Leopard.

Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 13, 2009, erik burggraaf wrote:

>
> Hi guys, it's tough to be sure, but I think I was down around 55 gb
> free on my macbook.  After installing sl I seem to have gotten about
> 30 gb of space back from somewhere.  Did any one else notice this?
> It's quite a nice improvement.  I do empty my trash regularly by the
> way,.  It's just that I store my music all on the laptop here, and it
> has some other huge files on it that were eating my drive space.  Or
> so I thought, but maybe leppard was just a bit bloated.
>
> Best,
>
> erik burggraaf
> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
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>
> >


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