I appreciate where Piotr is coming from but that kind of message could be taken 
as not helpful but whilst I don't mind what is said since I asked the questions 
as I have done on a number of occasions, not everyone has the time to read 
lists on all topics as I for one have a full time job and for me as I'm a 
member of this list and have been since 2010  it is for me nice that I can ask 
my IOS questions on this list as I don't have the time to subscribe to lists 
and lists.

With best wishes.

Kawal.

> On 12 Mar 2014, at 05:30 pm, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I suspect you answered your own question. Moderation of this list is a really 
> light touch, pretty much just managing by exception (exceptionally bad 
> behavior). That said, I think the name is a bit of an anachronism as iOS 
> devices were not really accessible until voiceover came out back in the 3GS 
> days (June 19, 2009) and this list goes back to around 2005 when voiceover 
> was introduced in OSX 10.4. So while it started as a Mac/Voiceover list, over 
> the years a large number of Mac users have also become iOS users. That shared 
> interest shows up as lots of iOS questions here, which are probably of 
> interest to many subscribers. Apple itself seems to be doing more and more 
> cross-pollination between the OSX and iOS UI so gestures learned on one are 
> reusable on the other. So while it might be nice to keep a clean Mac-only 
> discussion, the reality is the list content is what people want to discuss 
> and apparently lots of folks like to talk about iOS. Hard to push that rope.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 3/12/14 1:04 PM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Got a quick question. While I can see that most people that have Macs also 
>> probably have an iDevice, what's with the big flood of iOS messages? No 
>> offence to anyone, but that's not the topic of the list, there's others 
>> where you can ask about your iPhone, there's that and Applevis as well. This 
>> list is high traffic enough, and these posts aren't ¸exactly relevant.  If 
>> the list was called "Apple visionaries", then maybe I could see why there's 
>> so many iOS posts. But if I was in need of help with a Mac, having asked a 
>> question, checking for new messages, only to find a lot of posts about, say, 
>> dragging apps to the iOS dock, it'd be sightly frustrating. Lastly, not 
>> everyone has an iOS device or primarily uses one. For example, while I have 
>> a 5th gen iPod touch, I actually use a Galaxy S4 as my phone and check 
>> around on sites like applevis for iOS questions and discussions. I also keep 
>> all of my lists separated into folders, so seeing iOS posts in a "Mac" 
>> folder isn't really fun. I would really appreciate it if people would just 
>> take there  iPhone observations and questions to lists and sites where 
>> that's the main focus.
>> Thanks,
>> Piotr
>> 
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