A heading in a pages document is nothing more than a style. There is no heading element as in an HTML or other mark-up document. What they need to do is bring back the ability to search for different styles that was in iWork09.
Vo-command-s is working totally as expected for me in a Pages document. I strongly recommend that everyone who is having problems using it to take the time to try to figure out why it’s not working for you. If it works for me, then it should work for everyone else. There has to be some reason why it isn’t. On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: Vo-cmd-s is the command to jump to anything with the same styling. So, it will not work for headings specifically, it will only find the next item that matches styles with whatever you are currently on. If you start on a heading it might work (though I imagine it will ignore headings of other levels) but it is not for finding headings. Also, Voiceover still will not report headings as you encounter them like it does for HTML content or even styled emails. On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Barry, > > I tried VO-Cmd-s and it doesn’t work for me. Perhaps it depends on the type > of heading. I may have modified the heading style but it certainly is heading > style. > > I just wonder who tests applications such as Pages for accessibility. It > doesn’t seem to be anyone who really uses it. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 22 Mar 2014, at 20:43, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Anne, >> >> I am able to find headings in Pages with vo-command-s and >> vo-shift-command-s. I don’t know why that doesn’t seem to work for >> everyone. >> >> The problem with monitoring a hotspot on the paragraph styles button is that >> it appears they set the accessibility description to something other than >> what the button title says. It is an example of them seemingly not >> understanding how their own accessibility system is supposed to work. The >> accessibility description should never be set on a standard element with a >> text title. It would take them seconds to correct that. You may want to >> update your bug report with this. >> >> On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Although there have been a lot of improvements in accessibility in Pages for >> Mavericks, most of the VO find commands still don’t work. So find next >> heading, find next link, find next bold text, find next text with same >> attributes, and so on, still don’t work in Pages. >> >> Something that’s worse in the new Pages is the inability to set a hotspot on >> the paragraph style and check it without jumping to the formatter. >> >> I submitted a bug report about this stuff some years ago so I suppose I’d >> better do it again, for what it’s worth. I don’t think there are enough of >> us using Pages with VO to have much impact. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> On 22 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm on OSX 10.8.5 so my Pages isn't the latest but I can reproduce the >>> problem. Pages knows stuff is a heading when I set it from the toolbar >>> because I can insert a table of contents and it will pull those headings >>> into the list with page numbers. In the document inspector under the TOC >>> tab it notes that headings are present in my document. I can also do a >>> vo-command-h to jump to headings but it says no headings found, which is >>> not true. This sounds like a bug where Apple just didn't hook up the >>> standard heading finder in VO to the headings in Pages. In the TOC tab of >>> the document inspector there is a checkbox that says you can make the page >>> numbers in the table of contents links but I wasn't able to even find the >>> page numbers, not to mention action them to jump somewhere on a page. At >>> least VO-Command-L said link not found. So that sounds like another bug. Do >>> these issue exist in Mavericks with the latest pages? >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 3/22/14 7:39 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> I've been playing with Pages after our recent discussion of the app. So >>>> far, I'm really impressed, but there's one thing that disappoints me: >>>> headings. Specifically, I see no way to be informed of headings, let alone >>>> move by them in a document. Am I missing something, or is this simply not >>>> possible? VoiceOver simply identifies headings as bold, 30-point text, yet >>>> those using MS Office can see where a heading is and even jump to headings >>>> for very efficient document navigation. Is such a thing possible on the >>>> Mac? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> Barry Hadder >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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