Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have to 
reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*

Jane




On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus?  This is 
> not typical behavior.
> 
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> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Jane <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there.
>> I tried both cycling VO off and on and a re-start of this computer. It 
>> didn't make a difference. Any other thoughts?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I would just suggest either cycling VO off then on or restarting your Mac.  
>>> This is not normal behaviour so, something has become confused.  The 
>>> cycling off/on of VO may do the trick but the restart is best and if that 
>>> doesn't fix it, then post again.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  Funny this comes up today for I just ran into the same issue except I 
>>>> could not bring up the menu bar and control f3 did not work. Had to 
>>>> restart the Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>>> "Be lions roaring through the forests of knowledge."
>>>> --Bahá'í Scriptures
>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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>>>> On 4/16/2014 11:18 AM, Jane wrote:
>>>>> I can't seem to get to my Status menu things at all. VO-m twice doesn't 
>>>>> work. None of the trackpad commands seem to work. I guess it is there, 
>>>>> somewhere, but I can't access it. Do any of you have ideas?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
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