Hello Robert, The only app I ever use for chatting, and that isn't very often, is Skype, so I don't know how the others work.
Cheers, Anne On 18 Apr 2014, at 20:21, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote: > Anne, > I dont use Skype but imagine this works in any instant messaging as well. > > What I hear while typing is controlled by the verbosity settings? Here is > what I would like to know. What are the steps to follow when I want to start > a chat? Not how to initiate one but how to deal with the keyboard and VP > focus. Once I have done this a time or two I should be ok. Until now, I have > only disabled tracking when installing some apps. Thanks. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > "Laws change more slowly than custom, and though dangerous when they fall > behind the times are more dangerous still when they presume to anticipate > custom." > --Marguerite Yourcenar (1903 - 1987) > Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn > E-mail- > [email protected] > > On 4/17/2014 10:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello Robert, >> >> What you hear when typing depends on how you have your keyboard echo set. >> What your correspondent has written can be read automatically in Skype if >> you have Growl installed, otherwise you need to navigate to it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 17 Apr 2014, at 20:23, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anne, >>> This is an old message but of interest. Specifically, the cursor tracking >>> when in a chat environment. >>> >>> If tracking is off, keyboard fozus is on the edit field, and VO is on the >>> text the other person types, do you hear both spoken or do you need to use >>> commands? This is new to me and I wish to try a chat soon with a friend. >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. >>> They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason. >>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> [email protected] >>> >>> On 1/24/2014 11:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> Hello Lee, >>>> >>>> The keyboard focus is the position of the insertion point, which is shown >>>> on the screen as a tiny line between two characters. This is where your >>>> text will start if you begin typing. >>>> The VoiceOver cursor is shown as a box around an area on the screen and >>>> you can change its size in the VoiceOver utility. >>>> Normally the keyboard focus and the VoiceOver cursor are tied together so >>>> that VoiceOver tells you where you can enter information, but in a chat, >>>> you want to be able to read what the other person has written without >>>> moving the insertion point from the field where you type your reply, so >>>> you turn cursor tracking off. >>>> >>>> In general, we don't need to worry about the mouse cursor, but some >>>> operations require the mouse to be on a specific element, in which case, >>>> you can bring the mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO-Cmd-F5 if you >>>> don't have the mouse cursor tied to the other cursors already. >>>> I prefer not to have my mouse cursor tied to the other cursors as I find >>>> it can cause some irritating jumping around. >>>> >>>> Mouse keys allows you to pilot the mouse using either the numpad or the >>>> letter keys on the righthand side of the keyboard. >>>> >>>> In VoiceOver utility, you can tell VO to speak the text under the mouse >>>> with no delay so that you can hear where your mouse pointer is. Moving the >>>> mouse pointer in this way can make some elements accessible which the >>>> VoiceOver cursor can't reach. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25 Jan 2014, at 02:40, Lee Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear List I don't understand the difference between keyboard focus and >>>>> voice over cursor. What can you do with one that you can't do withthe the >>>>> other? Do people find mouse keys useful? There are shortcuts for mouse up >>>>> mouse down, double click etc but I am not sure what they would be used >>>>> for. In setttings is it best to have keyboard focus vo cursor and mouse >>>>> pointer following each other or moving separately? 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