any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have better luck if we knew which one it was? Cheers Thuy
Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote: > > This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I > think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular > display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead > to nowhere. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. > --Toni Morrison > Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn > E-mail- > [email protected] > >> On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless >> you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to >> assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on >> this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. >> Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. >> That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi again >>> You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on >>> your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on >>> your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read >>> braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is >>> supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to >>> make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like >>> that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like >>> putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your >>> programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I >>> would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You >>> may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the >>> bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. >>> Gigi >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to >>>> navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility > braille then >>>> i have to assign some commands? >>>>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi there >>>>> Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not >>>>> mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my >>>>> focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the >>>>> focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word >>>>> about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed >>>>> under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for >>>>> supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started >>>>> with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first >>>>> look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that >>>>> manufacturer that are supported. >>>>> >>>>> In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not >>>>> exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately >>>>> tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which >>>>> is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under >>>>> supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if >>>>> yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille >>>>> displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. >>>>> >>>>> Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get >>>>> braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's >>>>> on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those >>>>> displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't >>>>> think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get >>>>> braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope >>>>> what I just said makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual >>>>>> for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to >>>>>> use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction >>>>>> to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, >>>>>>> Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth >>>>>>> <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>> I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille >>>>>>> displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille >>>>>>> back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? >>>>>>> That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let >>>>>>> you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed >>>>>>> in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille >>>>>>> display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them >>>>>>> with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, >>>>>>> Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my >>>>>>>> display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual >>>>>>>> there's no instruction how to use it on voice over >>>>>>>>> Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>> Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press >>>>>>>>> the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might >>>>>>>>> be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are >>>>>>>>> some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, >>>>>>>>> no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a >>>>>>>>> particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different >>>>>>>>> things. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open >>>>>>>>>> it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my >>>>>>>>>> display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was >>>>>>>>>> touch me 5 by nippon telesoft >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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