Thanks for the few tips.  I actually hate the track pad.  But will do what you 
suggested!

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> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Kayaker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So, you think you’re ready to move up to the VO big leagues eh? 
> 
> I tend to go with self help. I often check out the VO-H command menus reading 
> the command descriptions to see what I can do. I also look in the VO Utility 
> application where you can assign actions to keys and see and control 
> verbosity. I was using VO before the trackpad commander, so I tend to use the 
> keyboard commands exclusively. If you are a trackpad user, look into the 
> commander functions, or the Numpad commander functions, and use both keyboard 
> and trackpad to your advantage. There’s a lot of customizations you can make 
> within the VO Utility.
> 
> I think my favorite command beyond the basics is simply the VO Shift C, copy 
> last phrase spoken to the clipboard. And the second most useful command I 
> tend to use is the move mouse cursor to voiceover cursor with VO Command F5. 
> I tend to use that for working around voiceover issues with the contextual 
> menus or a stubborn button that won’t activate. So, at that point I will use 
> the mouse button like any sighted user would.
> 
> Another fun game to play is to enable keyboard help, with VO K, and then just 
> hit keys with the VO controls down to hear what they do. Be sure to use all 
> the modifier combinations.
> 
> And the other important thing is to ask the list if there is an easier way to 
> do something that annoys you.  Odds are, there probably is, and you’ll get 
> the answer here.
> 
> Enjoy.
> —K
> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
> questions.
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Kliphton Senior <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> So, now that everyone knows the basics, what are some advanced things voice 
>> over users can learn?  Where would we find documentation on this?  They have 
>> a lot of tutorials out there, but most of it is for the beginner, what about 
>> the advanced user?
>> 
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