Hi Tim and others. 
I just made what I hope is going to work in most cases. I uninstalled Adobe 
Acrobat Reader and all those plug-ins that had the name which included Adobe 
Reader as part of their names. I test what would happen by going to the IRS web 
site which has a whole bunch of pdf files. I called up one of the nonaccessible 
ones, and lo, it talked. Then I found out that if I had the VO cursor sitting 
on the place where it started talking, that I could save it out as a good form 
file. I thought it might try and save the whole page, but it didn't. I thought 
it would call up Preview, but it didn't. I guess Safari is reading the text. I 
discovered I could interact with the text and go VO down arrow line by line. It 
wouldn't let me enter anything like it will for sighted people. 

This is a definite improvement over having Adobe installed. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It should, but, it all depends on how the uninstall progresses.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 4, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Tim. If I uninstall Adobe Acrobat Reader, will Safari automatically 
>> go to Preview? 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Usually, web-sites that say that they require Adobe Reader don't actually 
>>> "require" Adobe Reader.  All that they require is that you have a pdf 
>>> reader installed.  Normally, Preview or pdfpen would do the job.  Adobe 
>>> Reader also installs an Internet Plugin that takes over Safari and other 
>>> browsers making it so that Adobe will often open within Safari in an 
>>> embedded fashion which is unusable to us VO users.  You can remove this 
>>> plugin by going into your Macintosh HD, Library, Internet Plugins and 
>>> removing the Adobe Reader Internet Plugin.  Adobe will still work, it just 
>>> won't force it to be opened within your browser.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys
>>>> As the subject says, I have a question about Adobe acrobat reader and 
>>>> Safari. I would uninstall Adobe, except that I have some website I go to 
>>>> that say they require it. Last night, that stupid thing cause me a 
>>>> problem, and I had to get my husband to fix it. I hope this question makes 
>>>> sense, but how can I set those plug-ins so that it won't lock up Safari 
>>>> like it just did? I had it working where I could call the form up tell 
>>>> Safari to save it, and then use preview to read the PDF file. However, I 
>>>> was emailed a link to one, and when I Called up the link, it turned the 
>>>> fan on on my computer, and locked up Safari. I finally had to do a force 
>>>> quit and kill off everything. 
>>>> 
>>>> Here's another alternative I thought of, and I would like it better if it 
>>>> would work. If a website insist that you call up Adobe acrobat reader, can 
>>>> you use preview instead? 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Gigi
>>>> 
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