Good points, David. One thing I remember from one of your previous posts was you writing that you got great results from Prizmo, but that it took a lot of practice. Personally, I don't have the time to do that much practicing with an app, and the KNFB reader saves you all that practice time. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:02 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, Abbyy Fine Reader, the OCR engine in KNFBReader, and in TextGrabber, is > free. > > OCR is not any faster in KNFBReader compared with the other two apps. What is > different is that KNFBReader is sending the text directly to the speech > synthesiser as it is processed. Turn off automatic announcement of text and > KNFBReader acts like the other OCR apps regarding speed of OCR. > > The alignment training settings are excellent because they are actually > finally teaching blind people what they have been doing wrong with OCR apps. > > Personally, I like the automatic picture taking feature. Otherwise, the app > is quite similar to TextGrabber and Prizmo as far as taking manual pictures > is concerned. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 20 Sep 2014, at 08:07, BobH. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mrs tells me the abbyy Finereader app is itself available and free; over >> here at least. >> >> Could be a question of accessibility. Will have to go look, but all the >> other helpp may well yet be worth the cost. >> >> Rh. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Krister Ekstrom" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM >> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App >> >> >> The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it >> uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when >> it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result. >> It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which >> didn't impress me much. >> /Krister >> >>> 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: >>> or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR >>> apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta >>> okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and >>> accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't >>> realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always >>> angling the camra lens much too far upward. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> Donna, >>>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got >>>> 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously >>>> has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute >>>> lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I >>>> never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text >>>> Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader >>>> helps you line it up if you want it to. >>>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. >>>> I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there >>>> was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the >>>> only OCR app on my phone. >>>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts >>>> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage. >>>> >>>> Good luck with your decision >>>> >>>> Lisette >>>> >>>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not >>>>> to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either >>>>> textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with >>>>> both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make >>>>> that easier? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yep, I know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $100? Ouch. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina? >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mystic Access >>>>>>>>> Where the magic is in learning. >>>>>>>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341 >>>>>>>>> Buffalo, NY 14223 >>>>>>>>> Phone: (716) 743-8244 >>>>>>>>> web: www.mysticaccess.com <http://www.mysticaccess.com/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com> >>>>>>>>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com >>>>>>>>> Twitter: MysticAccess >>>>>>>>> Twitter: JediKent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 >>>>>>>>> Kevin Mattingly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the app is $100. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the >>>>>>>>>>> blind, >>>>>>>>>>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and >>>>>>>>>>> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to >>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. >>>>>>>>>>> Members of >>>>>>>>>>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB >>>>>>>>>>> Reading >>>>>>>>>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, >>>>>>>>>>> Inc. KNFB >>>>>>>>>>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, >>>>>>>>>>> said: >>>>>>>>>>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty >>>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>>> in the development of technology that helps blind people to >>>>>>>>>>> acquire >>>>>>>>>>> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from >>>>>>>>>>> day to >>>>>>>>>>> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to >>>>>>>>>>> develop the >>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household >>>>>>>>>>> appliance, >>>>>>>>>>> we have been interested in the development of better and more >>>>>>>>>>> portable >>>>>>>>>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, >>>>>>>>>>> menus, >>>>>>>>>>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday >>>>>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>>>>> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now >>>>>>>>>>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of >>>>>>>>>>> us >>>>>>>>>>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can >>>>>>>>>>> hear >>>>>>>>>>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone's >>>>>>>>>>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a >>>>>>>>>>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>> we need and live the lives we want." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an >>>>>>>>>> email to [email 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