You're right, but you don't have to do the rental portion of it if you don't 
want to, so probably will just buy the phone outright, sense I don't want to 
end up with a $90 bill then have to be forced to give the phone back at the end 
of it all.
On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Brent Harding <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think the $50 plan is only available on the 6 or 6+. If I got it right what 
> I've found online, you effectively have a $70 per month bill, with $20 of it 
> being what you pay monthly on the phone. I wonder what the real difference is 
> with this technically being a rental? Could they decide to not offer this in 
> the future and demand it back?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Moss" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Handoff on iPhone 4s
> 
> 
> I plan on upgrading too as well, and not necessarily because I want to, but 
> unfortunately because Sprint requires it in order to get their $50 unlimitted 
> plan, which I'd love to have compared to their $60 one they already have that 
> will save me some money in the longrun, but would be willing to settle for a 
> 5s if need-be, considering the fact that sense upgrading to ios8, my 4s is 
> now running a bit slower than it used to, which can be frustrating at times.. 
>  I love the features it has though, but am still having to play around with 
> it though, but it seems to have more spoken feedback, which I like.
> Something I'm confused about though, does this "people," feature that always 
> runs in the background consume your battery life, sense it runs in your app 
> switcher and there's no way to close it?
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:40 AM, Pamela Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Please do not take my letter as bashing the OS for being an improvement on 
>> whatever Apple has had. It merely does not make sense to me no matter 
>> whether it's Apple or android that whatever equipment they claim is 
>> supported within an update cannot accept the entire update. I read the 
>> release notes. I took a chance. I am not complaining about what I did or 
>> didn't do. Apple along with any other manufacturer has a degree of planned 
>> obsolescence with any of their equipment. If within their beta testing and 
>> developer reviews, it would seem to me it would be more fair to the customer 
>> to disallow the update rather than give someone who is running an older  
>> device a half-baked OS. With all the trade in  programs the carriers offer, 
>> there may be people who get used equipment at a discounted rate or for free 
>> who have never had experience with the apple ecosystem. That equipment may 
>> run the latest software, yet cannot make use of whatever features one may 
>> need.
>> I remember when Siri came out on the iPhone for S. At the time, the iPad 2 
>> had a similar processor.  Yet it was claimed not to have had as good a 
>> microphone, and therefore could not have Siri. During the cycle of that 
>> equipment, we as Apple consumers were half promised we would get Siri in an 
>> iPad update. It never happened. Yep, there were and still are apps on the 
>> web that will serve the same purpose. Unless Apple has gotten really sloppy, 
>> they surely keep track of what apps are in and out of there App Store. In so 
>> doing, they know what people can use for what tasks.  It's a good OS. I only 
>> wish they would be a little more truthful with their consumers, especially 
>> given all of the changes that are made each year to their various equipment. 
>> As I said earlier, I would rather know upfront whether or not my equipment 
>> would except a given update or how many future updates it could conceivably 
>> except than have a half-baked product.
>> With the most recent release of the iPhone six and 6+, you and I both know 
>> they are at work on the next iteration of the OS. I'm going to upgrade. 
>> However, it would almost seem that be at Apple, Samsung, Motorola, etc. 
>> would have to tell a consumer in advance how many future updates that 
>> equipment can and will accept. If that were able to happen, the consumer, 
>> who in this economy, has to be conscious of his/her dollars would know what 
>> they were getting and how much use they would get for their money.
>> I'll close with a case in point. My 2013 Nexus seven will get android L. My 
>> 2012 Lexus will not. I know that find up ahead of time to make a decision 
>> whether or not to replace my equipment.
>> Thank you ever so much for reading.
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> How would you be any better off if told your device didn't support the 
>> upgrade at all compared with being able to upgrade but not use all features? 
>> At least some of the features are available and some new features are surely 
>> better than no new features? Anyway, whether or not you upgrade is a choice. 
>> You're not forced to upgrade. I haven't and won't upgrade my 4S because I 
>> suspect iOS 8 will run slower on it than iOS 7, and that's more important to 
>> me than the new features. And because of this I'll wait until I buy an 
>> iPhone 6 before using iOS 8. So I think it's a little disingenuous of you to 
>> choose to upgrade and then complain that you get some new features but not 
>> all, but then say you'd prefer to have no new features. Why don't you just 
>> read the release notes for which features are supported on which devices if 
>> you don't want to only have some features but not all?
>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 5:33 am, Pamela Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am becoming very disenchanted with iOS and its fragmentation  when they 
>>> release an update,  the feature list should work on all supported devices.
>>> I understand the need for progress along with the fast pace movement of 
>>> technology in this day and age. Apple's products are high-end at a premium 
>>> price. Not everyone who uses their products is named Rockefeller. I would 
>>> rather be told my phone cannot except the update  than  half the features 
>>> work Half -assed.
>>> . In my opinion, they are being very disingenuous to those of us who have 
>>> come to truly depend on them  for accessibility purposes.  No, I do not 
>>> expect to be handed a phone or tablet for free. However I do expect the 
>>> devices I currently own that are supposed to support the update to fully 
>>> support it. Shame on Apple!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>> 
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