let me just say: yes, there are bugs. However, I am using my iPad and both 
iPhones every day just as I have always use them. Do I have to do a few little 
work arounds? Yes. But still, I am using all of my devices with braille, with 
speech, with dictation and Siri and everything else and with the addition of 
braille input right from the screen without using a third-party app. So yes, I 
would like to see the bugs addressed and fixed, but no, I do not find any of my 
devices have become nonfunctional or so difficult to use that I have abandoned 
their normal daily, all day long, constant place in my life!this is not to 
minimize the problems people are having; I would just like to bring a little 
bit of perspective to this issue.by the way, it seems ironic to me; I could not 
for the life of me use MBraille and now I am enjoying the screen input of 
braille and people who could use MBraille are having problems. I have no idea 
why this is happeningi but well I know it isn't really funny for those who 
can't use the braille input,it does seem a little ironic to me. But believe me, 
I am hoping for relief for those who cannot use the built in braille input as 
soon as possible! 

> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 


> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi there 
> I don't think the bugs are that bad. If I lose VoiceOver, and sometimes when 
> I press the home key when getting out of an app it happens, I just tell Siri 
> to turn VoiceOver off then tell her to turn it back on again. The other thing 
> has to do with the music coming on when you use two finger double tap to 
> answer the phone or other things, too. I just do it again, and the music most 
> of the tine shuts up. The other annoying one is when a link or button refuses 
> to work. Most of the time I can get it to work with flicking up or down and 
> then double tapping, (it was suggested on this list.) Sometimes it works if 
> you locate it on the screen and split tap. Usually, I can find a work around. 
> BARD Mobile has a few annoyances like jumping out of the app when downloading 
> files. And finally, if you have been waiting for the Braille keyboard, I cant 
> get it to work, even though I was fast with mBraille. 
> 
> I haven't yet written Apple Accessibility because I haven't had the time, and 
> I think they probably know by now all these little annoyances. I am confident 
> they will fix them soon with the next updates. I am not one of these people 
> that gets hysterical about annoyances on an update. when you get your iPhone 
> 6 plus it will be under IOS 8, I believe. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I had been waiting to upgrade my phone for some time and did choose the 
>> 6plus.  The phone isn't here yet, but feels like a mini, mini in my hand.  I 
>> did test to see if it would fit in my pocket -- and it did.
>> I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug warnings 
>> from a number of blind people around here.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
>> 
>> On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that this 
>> soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about the 6, 
>> that's opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, with iOS8 
>> despite the bugs, imensely and the reason many different phones are 
>> available and sell well is because people's likes and dislikes are diverse. 
>> I realize a lot of people feel the 6+ is too large and that certainly is a 
>> valid opinion; for myself, I would upgrade my remaining 5S to a 6+ now if I 
>> could which is probably minority opinion but proves the diversity of 
>> people's responses. As for bending, I am not expecting that to happen, but 
>> if it does I have Apple Care and wil request a replacement just as I would 
>> for any other product.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has Apple ironed out the bugs in iOS 8 yet? And, is the 6+ bending under 
>>> pressure still a problem? Is it going to be a disaster for Apple? I've held 
>>> both iPhone sixes, and I would never buy a 6+. In fact, I'm not too crazy 
>>> about the six either.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: 'It's been way 
>>>> too long'
>>>> by MacDailyNews
>>>> [cfsp key="adsense_336x280"]It's official: Apple's invitation to media 
>>>> outlets has confirmed they will be holding a special media event on 
>>>> October 16, 2014.
>>>> No word, yet, on whether Appel will attempt a live streaming broadcast of 
>>>> the event. If so, hopefully, it'll go better than their last attempt.
>>>> Rumors and speculation call for new iPads, including a svelte new 
>>>> A8-powered iPad Air with Touch ID, and new Macs, including the possibility 
>>>> of a new 27-inch iMac with Retina display and maybe even a new Mac mini.
>>>> Also expected is the public release of OS X Yosemite, so we all finally 
>>>> get some Continuity into our lives between our Macs and iPhones, iPad, and 
>>>> iPod touches.
>>>> And, as always, the possibility of "one more thing" looms.
>>>> MacDailyNews will offer live notes that day starting at 10am PDT/1pm EDT. 
>>>> Check our home page that day for the article link
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