Hi,

Yes it is odd, but, Apple seems to set up things slightly different in each 
interface/environment.  Like, on the iPhone, one accesses the SD content 
different than one does on the iPad.  Both are iOS devices, but, things are 
slightly different.  Maybe there’s a method to their madness, maybe they’re 
just mad.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> but what i do wonder, when looking at movies that you’ve purchased in the 
> phone, why does it show download, but when looking at the same movie in the 
> store, it shows a purchase price? odd.
>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you go into your iTunes Prefs, to the Store pane, check the box for 
>> showing iTunes in the Cloud purchases, then you can download the purchased 
>> media to your Mac without going through the Purchased items from within the 
>> Store.  If you have 720P set in the Store pane, then a 720P version will be 
>> downloaded.  If you have 1080P set, a 1080P version will be downloaded.  At 
>> the moment, you just can’t get at an SD version using this method on your 
>> Mac, not that I’ve found yet anyway.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> i do. I went into the iTunes store on the mac, looked at a movie  I 
>>> actually purchased from iTunes, and it still shows a price. apparently you 
>>> can’t download movies from the iTunes store on the mac side, except in the 
>>> “purchased” quicklinks section. can anyone else verify this being true?
>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> If it shows a price, then it likely will attempt to charge you.  I 
>>>> wouldn’t chance it.  Do you have another one you can look at that is an 
>>>> original iTunes purchase?
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried to go to the iTunes Store on the Mac, look at a movie that I saw 
>>>>> in my purchased items folder, to be able to download the SD version of 
>>>>> it, but it showed a price. Now I didn't actually purchased it from the 
>>>>> iTunes Store, I redeemed it from a digital download code from the 
>>>>> Blu-ray. Would itstill charge me then?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven’t done this in a while but when I did extract from the iTunes 
>>>>>> Extras Booklet in the past, the video content was playable through 
>>>>>> iTunes on my Mac.  So, if it is considered video content, you should be 
>>>>>> able to sync it across from iTunes on your Mac to your iPhone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there a way to transfer the iTunes extra booklets to your iPhone? 
>>>>>>> Because the only thing you can really extract out of it is the audio 
>>>>>>> files. The video files are extractable, but they won't play with VLC. I 
>>>>>>> hadn't tried them in iTunes. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is not particularly intuitive on the iPhone, but is possible.  On 
>>>>>>>> the iPad, if you go into the Videos app, then go to the Store, then 
>>>>>>>> access the More button, select Purchased, then select your movie, you 
>>>>>>>> are able to choose between both the HD and SD versions.  This is not 
>>>>>>>> so on the iPhone if you’ve originally purchased the HD version.  So, 
>>>>>>>> assuming you’ve already purchased an HD movie, to get around this 
>>>>>>>> limitation and download the SD version on your iPhone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> • go into the Videos app
>>>>>>>> • into the Store
>>>>>>>> • then search for the movie you wish to download in SD
>>>>>>>> • open it’s page in the Store.
>>>>>>>> • locate the button that reads “Also Available in SD” and activate it.
>>>>>>>> • locate the Download button and activate it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The SD version of the movie will now be downloaded onto your iPhone.  
>>>>>>>> Kind of a round-about way of doing things, but, it works.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But how do you download the SD version from the iPhone?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can gather, if your device, either Mac or iOS, supports 
>>>>>>>>>> the HD quality media and if you’ve purchased the HD quality media, 
>>>>>>>>>> that is the version that will be downloaded unless you go into the 
>>>>>>>>>> Purchased area of your iTunes Store.  So, viewing of the SD quality 
>>>>>>>>>> version is fine using the Video Quality menu item, but downloading 
>>>>>>>>>> it requires you to either have purchased the SD quality movie or to 
>>>>>>>>>> go through the Purchased area of your iTunes Store.  Therefore, it’s 
>>>>>>>>>> not really a bug per say, it’s something that Apple has changed.  
>>>>>>>>>> Now, regarding the accessibility of downloading media from the 
>>>>>>>>>> Purchased area of your iTunes Store, that is a bug and should be 
>>>>>>>>>> addressed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are sighted people able to download the sd version of a movie by 
>>>>>>>>>>> choosing it under the quality menu or is this just a new bug? It 
>>>>>>>>>>> used to work using vo. Could you get the sd version using ios? You 
>>>>>>>>>>> used to be able too choose hd or sd on the iPhone but I think they 
>>>>>>>>>>> took that option away. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct.  Sorry for giving you inaccurate suggestions.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3209?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3209?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you wish to download an SD version after purchasing and HD 
>>>>>>>>>>>> version of a movie, you’ll need to go under the Purchased section 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of your iTunes Store page.  Now, the problem here is that that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> page has elements on it that VO does not read.  I guess a note to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Accessibility is in order as this has been a problem for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> As a matter of interest, the SD version of a movie is actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>> included in the HD version when downloaded.  That’s why you’re 
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to view each version under the Video Quality item within the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Contextual menu.  That doesn’t help you though if you’re wanting 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the SD version to save space though.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've done that but when I click download on the iCloud download 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button, still download the HD version of the movie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To download the SD quality movie, press VO-shift-m when focused 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the given movie, navigate down to the Video Quality item then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose SD from the sub-menu.  now if you press download, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard Definition version will be downloaded or if you simply 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish to stream it, the SD version will be streamed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do you then download the SD version of a movie? no matter 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what i do, it seems to download the HD version, and when i 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click on the checkbox that says, “download hd when available”, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it always gets turned back on when i go to download a movie… 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The age of the movie only has a part to do with it.  It mostly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to do with the studio.  If they chose to update their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes Extras then they become embedded in the HD movie.  The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Booklet style of iTunes Extra is only viewable on your Mac 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless you perform some trickery by extracting the media 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content out of the Extras booklet.  The newer version of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes Extras is only available from the Cloud and only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available with HD movie content.  If you choose to download 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the movie instead of streaming it, those iTunes Extras don’t 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally present themselves.  I need to do some more testing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my Mac to see exactly how we access this Extras content 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a VO prospective.  Again, I’ll paste in the link to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Support article:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6307?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6307?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Joe Quinn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also how do you do this on the mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to the movie and click the Download cloud icon. You can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select Download iTunes Extras or Cancel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see no download option in the purchased section of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes Store on my Mac. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  Visit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6307?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6307?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Apple’s info on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Faisal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, the latest version of extras is viewable on all your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the Special Extended bundle which doesn’t appear to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come with iTunes Extras.  Things to note with iTunes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extras:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  The new version of iTunes Extras is kind of embedded 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the movie.  so, the title will read “Lord of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rings: the Fellowship of the Rings (PG) HD - iTunes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extras” or something similar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  The older versions of iTunes Extras came as a separate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booklet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  The older versions of iTunes Extras are only viewable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your Mac, not on your Apple TV or iDevice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  To view new iTunes Extras content, if included in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Movie file purchase, you need to access the movie from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud version, not the local version.  When you open the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud version of the movie, it will prompt you whether you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish to watch the movie or the extras.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, on an Apple TV, instead of going under the Computers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> section, go under the Movies section and locate your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased content.  Select the movie and if iTunes Extras 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are available on that title, the choice will appear.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oddly enough, the 1st Generation Apple TV was able to view 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the booklet style of iTunes Extras but once the Apple TV 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> became a streaming device only, this feature was no longer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available.  There were some workarounds that I found but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they weren’t necessarily particularly practical, at least, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the effort in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Joe Quinn 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd just like to clarify for anyone who owns the itunes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of the lord of the rings extended bundles, and an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple tv, do the itunes extras show up when you select 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the movie? This doesn't show up on either my apple tv or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my iphone  5s. Thanks for any help you can shine on this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I'm running the latest versions of both tv and iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firmware 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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