Oh, I don't really mind it that much, but that's only because I've pretty much got it down to an automated process. I can get up to 75 pages in my adf, and rarely do I have jajperjams. I think if I had the troubles you describe I'd go crazy! :) Cheers, Donna On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:42 AM, a radix wrote:
> > Hello, I find scanning to be q nightmare quite frankly and will be > happy if > I will be done with it after uni, but then I dont have a real > bookscanner > just a scanner with adf, you put 25 pages in at once and repeat that > till > the book is done, i cant count the amount of paper jams I have had > with that > thing and it isnt that fast either, it mechanically turns the pages > to scan > both sides. Also, omnipage often is not the most stable program either > although with version 16 its better then before, although I cant scan > directly to word anymore i now scan to a file. But, it gets the job > done.... > Yes, for my bachelor essay I also bought a lot of books that I had > to scan, > law books are rather costly here too! > Greetings, Anouk, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Goodin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: scanning wasRe: my 2 months with a mac > > >> >> Hi Anouk, >> >> Oh, here in the U.S. there are many of us who are power scanners. I >> have two master's degrees and a Ph.D and I would never have been able >> to get those degrees if I couldn't scan my own materials. At the >> university where I got my Ph.D they actually have an office that >> scans >> books for students, but because almost all my materials were in >> Spanish, they wanted four months to prepare a book. Needless to >> say I >> never had that kind of lead time, though they did scan some of the >> materials for my comps. While I was working on my Ph.D. I'm sure I >> scanned in excess of one book a day, and often much more than that. >> Needless to say, I don't miss those days! :) >> >> Now I just like to read a lot. And when I hear about a book I want >> to >> read, I'm not patient enough to wait around and see if someone makes >> it available. I use both bookshare and our web-braille service >> through the library of Congress, but even so I still scan a lot. >> During my student days I invested in a high-end scanner with a good >> document feeder. So, on my PC, I can just set the pages in and let >> them go, and a half hour or so later I have a book. I don't have a >> lot of time to proof read, so I want to stick with a program I know >> will do a good job on the OCR. So, for me, until there's a pretty >> sure- >> fire option available on the Mac, I'll continue to use my PC. >> >> I really was surprised that Omnipage didn't have a Mac version. It's >> such a widely-used program, I would have thought that would have >> happened long ago. My guess is ABYY's probably our best bet, since >> they've already made the lite version available. >> >> Best, >> Donna >> On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:49 AM, a radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Donna Funny that I am not the only person who relies heavily on >>> scanning >>> (in my country not all that many people do, many of them just rely >>> on >>> organisations for the blind to get their scanning done but that >>> takes too >>> long for me). At uni you only know 2 weeks forward what books you >>> will need >>> for a certain course so my only option is to scan it myself. I know >>> some >>> people have ties with publishers and are able to get books in pdf >>> format but >>> I am not so lucky. As you know my experience with mac scanning is >>> rather >>> limited but I am not actually SURE if you HAVE to use vuescan AND >>> readiris >>> to get the job done, I guess if you install the drivers for your >>> scanner >>> just readiris will do the job... I am just not sure about the >>> quality of >>> readiris in comparison with omnipage 16 pro especially if you want >>> to scan >>> 25 pages at once and do not want to proofread afterwards. But thats >>> just me >>> being squemish i guess.... I am just still really hoping that abbyy >>> will >>> release their full product for the mac. >>> Greetings, Anouk, >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donna Goodin" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same >>>> time >>>> almost, I'm going on three months now. >>>> >>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to >>>> use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use >>>> the >>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't >>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days, >>>> that >>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets >>>> relegated to after-hours. >>>> >>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so >>>> many >>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I >>>> know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the PC. I >>>> find >>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and >>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't >>>> find >>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. >>>> >>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't >>>> like >>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning >>>> and >>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that >>>> will >>>> do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, >>>> but I >>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good >>>> solid >>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the >>>> Mac as >>>> a PC replacement. >>>> >>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a >>>> PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to >>>> just >>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one >>>> computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS 11 >>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my PC >>>> for >>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90% >>>> of >>>> what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I >>>> like >>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it >>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with >>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be >>>> far >>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to for >>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my experience >>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I >>>> compare >>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much more >>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things >>>> like >>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of >>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, and >>>> so >>>> on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me, >>>> the >>>> iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a >>>> computer, it >>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems >>>> to >>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi again folks, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba >>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com >>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects >>>>> scroll >>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works >>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. If >>>>> you >>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >>>>> >>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally >>>>> love >>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much faster. >>>>> >>>>> Also, which braille display are you using? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>> My Twitter >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi again. >>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on >>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it >>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see >>>>>> how >>>>>> it >>>>>> works with swedish language and so on. >>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I >>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under >>>>>> the >>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff >>>>>> if I >>>>>> want to. >>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) >>>>>>> Funny >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you >>>>>>> broadcast on >>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont >>>>>>> either. I was >>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just >>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>> to ask my >>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has >>>>>>> anyone got >>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? Is >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook >>>>>>> pro >>>>>>> will be >>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an >>>>>>> dreadiris, in >>>>>>> fact i >>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp >>>>>>> releases the >>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> time abbyy >>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is >>>>>>> native >>>>>>> to sl. I >>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> slow or >>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. >>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i >>>>>>> thought >>>>>>> it was >>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> will both >>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this. >>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next >>>>>>> thing >>>>>>> i want to >>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and >>>>>>> it is >>>>>>> taking up >>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the >>>>>>> past >>>>>>> bu tI >>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to >>>>>>> analog. There >>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or >>>>>>> otherwise) >>>>>>> and I >>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you >>>>>>> use? I >>>>>>> guess as >>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it indeed >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> find the >>>>>>> channels). >>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine off, >>>>>>> just close >>>>>>> the lid and thats it. >>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Anouk. >>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like you I >>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the >>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have to >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from >>>>>>>> a no >>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a >>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the >>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the >>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows >>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow >>>>>>>> leopard my >>>>>>>> problems with it is gone. >>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be >>>>>>>> solved. I >>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd >>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is >>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and it >>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux at >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at works >>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> sleep >>>>>>>> works well too. >>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac! >>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now >>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain >>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>> why. In >>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as >>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>> pc. >>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead >>>>>>>>> watching >>>>>>>>> movies >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples >>>>>>>>> office suite >>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text >>>>>>>>> editors/office >>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use >>>>>>>>> garage band >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha >>>>>>>>> keyboard. I >>>>>>>>> like the >>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening through >>>>>>>>> its sound >>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I still >>>>>>>>> find using >>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while using >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> pc and >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice that I >>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to >>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>> reading, >>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal >>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you >>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>> long documents. >>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have >>>>>>>>> gotten mail >>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 >>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some >>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp >>>>>>>>> drivers for >>>>>>>>> sl >>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> easy as >>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it because >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> that (I >>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>>>>>>>> eventually be >>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage >>>>>>>>> pro). >>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does >>>>>>>>> work on >>>>>>>>> the mac >>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not >>>>>>>>> registered >>>>>>>>> it yet, >>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> works but >>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are not >>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> the mac. >>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec >>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for >>>>>>>>> interactive >>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open >>>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>>> with it >>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a >>>>>>>>> saved >>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>> (made in frotz). >>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play them >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which works >>>>>>>>> under java. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has >>>>>>>>> promised to >>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then >>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>> am used >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> on a windows client. >>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am >>>>>>>>> planning to >>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> my mac >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the >>>>>>>>> scanning and >>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the mac >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly >>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>> and in the library. >>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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