Well i only read snail mails, and for that it works well. I'd say it's amazingly accurate, but what do i know. /Krister
22 okt 2009 kl. 16.37 skrev Donna Goodin: > > Krister, > > How is the OCR quality? With Omnipage or Kurzweil I can produce a copy > of a book with barely any ocr errors? This is important to me because > I don't have a lot of time to sit around and clean up stuff I scanned. > Best, > Donna > On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> I will now utter some politically incorrect sentences here, you have >> been warned. Back to the original program. >> I use Readiris and Readiris alone, and what's more, i use it with my >> Canon Lide 90... and it works! >> I used the vuescan/Readiris combo before, but i never thought it >> worked well, and there were too many steps involved before i had a >> readable document and as the Readiris approach worked already >> before i >> put up Vuescan and since i didn't get better quality out of Vuescan i >> just skipped that step. >> /Krister >> >> >> 22 okt 2009 kl. 09.35 skrev a radix: >> >>> >>> Hi Krister, What do you use for scanning? Readiris? >>> Greetings, Anouk, >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Krister Ekstrom" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I have had my wonderful Imac for longer than two months, in fact >>>> it's >>>> a bit over a year now and i tell ya folks, i won't ever go back to >>>> using Windows. I have a virtual machine with Windows xp in it, >>>> but i >>>> use it only for when i want to play audio games and do some team >>>> talk >>>> and for the few occations when web sites aren't supported because >>>> of >>>> Flash. >>>> I'm doing all of my tasks like scanning, reading emails and such on >>>> the Mac now and i like the fact that finally, i have a computer >>>> that >>>> works with me, not against me. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 21 okt 2009 kl. 17.41 skrev Donna Goodin: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wow, Nic, you are a determined soul! :) I'm glad that after all >>>>> you >>>>> had to go through with the install, the Mac turned out to suit >>>>> your >>>>> needs. >>>>> >>>>> You people who have taken so readily to web-browsing on the Mac, >>>>> fascinate me. I keep playing with it, hoping to come to the same >>>>> conclusion, but it just doesn't happen. For example, I am >>>>> currently >>>>> job-hunting, and the other night, received a job match from a >>>>> site I >>>>> am registered with. When Safari loaded the page and auto-read, >>>>> it >>>>> read everything just as you would expect. But then, I decided I >>>>> wanted to take a second look at the preferred qualifications. I >>>>> couldn't find them to save my soul! I arrowed around, I interacted >>>>> with stuff, and nothing. So, I booted up my Pc, went into IE, and >>>>> found what I was looking for in two seconds. And I still have no >>>>> clue >>>>> what I should have done to locate that info in Safari. I often >>>>> feel >>>>> like because of all the interacting and stuff, that viewing a >>>>> webpage >>>>> in Safari is like looking at it through tinted glass or through a >>>>> veil >>>>> that only lets you see the outline of what you're looking at. >>>>> Links >>>>> of course are no problem, it's the text content that is often very >>>>> difficult to locate. >>>>> >>>>> I highly recommend the iphone, I've found it to be a delightful >>>>> little >>>>> toy, um, I mean, device. *grin* >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Definitely quite an interesting story. >>>>>> >>>>>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I >>>>>> went >>>>>> to >>>>>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it >>>>>> out. >>>>>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an >>>>>> institute >>>>>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was >>>>>> quite >>>>>> literally a pile of crap. >>>>>> >>>>>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have >>>>>> done >>>>>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I >>>>>> finally >>>>>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely >>>>>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always >>>>>> been >>>>>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how >>>>>> many >>>>>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you >>>>>> had >>>>>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously >>>>>> installed >>>>>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The >>>>>> headache. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I decided to take the plunge. >>>>>> >>>>>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went >>>>>> back >>>>>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >>>>>> mostly >>>>>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try >>>>>> it >>>>>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It >>>>>> definitely >>>>>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a >>>>>> showroom >>>>>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off >>>>>> thoroughly, >>>>>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was >>>>>> happy. >>>>>> So >>>>>> very happy. >>>>>> >>>>>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I >>>>>> almost >>>>>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my >>>>>> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh no! >>>>>> >>>>>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't >>>>>> care. I >>>>>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to >>>>>> advertise. >>>>>> So >>>>>> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >>>>>> installation >>>>>> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. >>>>>> It >>>>>> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I >>>>>> decided >>>>>> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the >>>>>> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang >>>>>> it! >>>>>> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >>>>>> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >>>>>> password >>>>>> at login. >>>>>> >>>>>> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told >>>>>> them >>>>>> the >>>>>> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they >>>>>> promptly >>>>>> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to >>>>>> enter, >>>>>> and >>>>>> I did. >>>>>> >>>>>> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >>>>>> >>>>>> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most >>>>>> annoying of >>>>>> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was >>>>>> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on >>>>>> his >>>>>> birthday. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. >>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>> am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I >>>>>> do >>>>>> run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes >>>>>> find >>>>>> it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and >>>>>> recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has >>>>>> to >>>>>> be >>>>>> a solution out there that does exactly the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth >>>>>> and >>>>>> responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search >>>>>> feature >>>>>> in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor >>>>>> makes >>>>>> it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use >>>>>> Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to >>>>>> admit >>>>>> it. >>>>>> But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would not >>>>>> touch it >>>>>> again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only been >>>>>> productive, >>>>>> but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I wanted to throw >>>>>> the >>>>>> machine through the window half the time I was using it due to >>>>>> freezes, driver errors and so-forth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you >>>>>> mention >>>>>> it, >>>>>> but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest and >>>>>> greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the iPhone >>>>>> and >>>>>> I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a lot, but >>>>>> at >>>>>> the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and phone calls. >>>>>> That >>>>>> is about it. It'll probably be faster to accomplish those tasks >>>>>> with >>>>>> the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. Maybe one day I'll even get >>>>>> one. >>>>>> But when I find a really good reason except for all the apps you >>>>>> can >>>>>> seemingly install with no issues, perfectly usable, then I won't >>>>>> buy >>>>>> one. Besides, who wants to pay $99.95 for an iPhone plan in >>>>>> Denmark? >>>>>> Not me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a great afternoon, folks. I at least know those living in >>>>>> the >>>>>> Eastern timezone are approaching lunch time. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nic >>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I use >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't >>>>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most >>>>>>> days, >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets >>>>>>> relegated to after-hours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've had so >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item >>>>>>> that I >>>>>>> know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the >>>>>>> PC. I >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for >>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple issue, >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good >>>>>>> solid >>>>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the >>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> a PC replacement. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac >>>>>>> and a >>>>>>> PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one >>>>>>> computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to JAWS >>>>>>> 11 >>>>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my >>>>>>> PC >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is >>>>>>> 90% of >>>>>>> what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built in, I >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it >>>>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be >>>>>>> far >>>>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my >>>>>>> experience >>>>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I >>>>>>> compare >>>>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of >>>>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for >>>>>>> me, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a >>>>>>> computer, >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which >>>>>>> seems to >>>>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi again folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue >>>>>>>> Amoeba >>>>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com >>>>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects >>>>>>>> scroll >>>>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it >>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain >>>>>>>> about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get it. >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally >>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much >>>>>>>> faster. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi again. >>>>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >>>>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >>>>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >>>>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on. >>>>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the >>>>>>>>> moment I >>>>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it >>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff >>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>> want to. >>>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place) >>>>>>>>>> Funny >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> broadcast on >>>>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast >>>>>>>>>> wont >>>>>>>>>> either. I was >>>>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just >>>>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>>> to ask my >>>>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. >>>>>>>>>> Has >>>>>>>>>> anyone got >>>>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot? >>>>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the >>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>> pro >>>>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an >>>>>>>>>> dreadiris, >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> fact i >>>>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp >>>>>>>>>> releases the >>>>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> time abbyy >>>>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is >>>>>>>>>> native >>>>>>>>>> to sl. I >>>>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be >>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> slow or >>>>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. >>>>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i >>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I >>>>>>>>>> guess we >>>>>>>>>> will both >>>>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this. >>>>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next >>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>> i want to >>>>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> taking up >>>>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>>> bu tI >>>>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to >>>>>>>>>> analog. There >>>>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or >>>>>>>>>> otherwise) >>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you >>>>>>>>>> use? I >>>>>>>>>> guess as >>>>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it >>>>>>>>>> indeed >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> find the >>>>>>>>>> channels). >>>>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine >>>>>>>>>> off, >>>>>>>>>> just close >>>>>>>>>> the lid and thats it. >>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk. >>>>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like >>>>>>>>>>> you I >>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the >>>>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf >>>>>>>>>>> from a >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a >>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich >>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the >>>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows >>>>>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow >>>>>>>>>>> leopard >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone. >>>>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be >>>>>>>>>>> solved. I >>>>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>>>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd >>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is >>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies and >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>>>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at >>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And, >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> sleep >>>>>>>>>>> works well too. >>>>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac! >>>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now >>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain >>>>>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>>>>> why. In >>>>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive >>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as >>>>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>>>>> pc. >>>>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead >>>>>>>>>>>> watching >>>>>>>>>>>> movies >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought >>>>>>>>>>>> apples >>>>>>>>>>>> office suite >>>>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text >>>>>>>>>>>> editors/office >>>>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use >>>>>>>>>>>> garage band >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I >>>>>>>>>>>> like the >>>>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening >>>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>>> its sound >>>>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I >>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>> find using >>>>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while >>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>> pc and >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice >>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to >>>>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>>>> reading, >>>>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>> long documents. >>>>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> gotten mail >>>>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16 >>>>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some >>>>>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp >>>>>>>>>>>> drivers for >>>>>>>>>>>> sl >>>>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> easy as >>>>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it >>>>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> that (I >>>>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>>>>>>>>>>> eventually be >>>>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival >>>>>>>>>>>> omnipage >>>>>>>>>>>> pro). >>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does >>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> the mac >>>>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not >>>>>>>>>>>> registered >>>>>>>>>>>> it yet, >>>>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet >>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>> works but >>>>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> the mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the >>>>>>>>>>>> pec >>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for >>>>>>>>>>>> interactive >>>>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open >>>>>>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>>>>>> with it >>>>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a >>>>>>>>>>>> saved >>>>>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz). >>>>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play >>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which >>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>> under java. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has >>>>>>>>>>>> promised to >>>>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then >>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>> am used >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> on a windows client. >>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am >>>>>>>>>>>> planning >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least >>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>> my mac >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the >>>>>>>>>>>> scanning and >>>>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the >>>>>>>>>>>> mac >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is >>>>>>>>>>>> mostly >>>>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>> and in the library. >>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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