Shawn Sent From My White Macbook----- Original Message ----- From: "The Believer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 5:56 PM Subject: Re: IoS 8.3, strange behavior
If beta testing were to be truly effective, Apple would have to create a very detailed flow chart the testers would have to follow faithfully. That in itself would not be practical. More testers on the team tho I have no idea how many there are now. We could label this any way we like but bugs are things that do any number of things that are not desired. This is not a desired result of tapping the status bar therefore its a buglet. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 4/11/2015 2:04 PM, Shen wrote:
Hello,Thank you all for responding to my email and confirming the strange behavior. Note that I said "strange behavior," and not bug. In my opinion, it's not a bug, but a strange behavior.A strange behavior which has never happened in the past. Here's also my opinion on Apple's beta test and what not.I agree that everything is a work in progress. I also agree that when something as complicated as an operating system, it is almost impossible to be completely bug free. However, Apple has a dedicated Accessibility team. They also have senior engineers who answer calls helping end users with accessibility issues. I've also met people, blind and not, who are private beta testers for VoiceOver and Zoom. With all this in place, it seems so impossible for something as obvious as an incorrect status bar item to slip through without being discovered. It is almost impossible to test a braille display without seeing this issue. Of course private beta testers are just that, private, certain select people, and who probably are not as thorough as people who work for Apple. All we can do is report it as a new issue and hope Apple will add it to their growing list of bugs to fix. I also agree that the missing email in the inbox is still there. I thought I'm the only person having this issue. I also have a new bug in Yosemite after updating to 10.10.3. I will check into that further before I report it to Apple.Shen [email protected]On Apr 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, The Believer <[email protected]> wrote:The day Apple masters perfection is the day we each one of us wins the Powerball.It's called "work in progress". If people wait for an OS that is 100% bug free, they be in for a long wait.This wee buglet that has drawn so much interest did not break anything, or am I missing something? I tried it and did not experience an earth shattering meltdown. If this really bothers people, let them pile on Apple Accessibility with bug reports and divert their attention from much more important bugs.From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 4/11/2015 1:15 PM, Robin wrote:I thought the advent of "public" BetaTesting would resolve these perceived "bugs' and/or "flaws" in Apple's iOS (iOS8 & Beyond) This doesn't make me more secure about forthcoming/upcoming iOS updates such as, iOS9 I suggest keep the pressure on by detailing perceived "bugs" and/or "flaws" detected in iOS in the form of Constructive Criticism to Apple's Accessibility Department Is Apple "slipping as it pertains to accessibility...only time will tell the true story At 05:06 AM 4/11/2015, you wrote:When companies say they have fixed bugs, I take it like a pinch of salt, as from beta testing in the past [not Apple], things are still the same. Still bugs when you write Braille with Braille displays on the I phone. It's our day for slagging Apple perhaps smily.On 11 Apr 2015, at 12:53 pm, Sean Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: How am i not surprised that the email bug is not fix. Now anotherbug with something that was working.My experience is the partOn 11 Apr 2015, at 8:43 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]>wrote:Using an iPhone 6 Plus, there is the same bug. Another problem, which has not been fixed yet, is the focus inemail, when you go to read a message, it suddenly disappears. This has been the case since the new operating system came out. So to bugs, not been fixed.On 11 Apr 2015, at 8:15 am, Shen <[email protected]> wrote: I updated my iPhone 6 yesterday to iOS 8.3 and immediately noticedsomething a little strange. It doesn't affect how iOS or the phone works, but the fact that this is even possible is very strange, and a little funny.If you updated your phone to iOS 8.3, try the following: First, remember that at the top of the screen, where your statusis, 1 of the items is your network. This tells you the name of the network you are using, AT&T, Verizon, Virgin Mobile, etc.Now open 1 of the following apps: Calendar, Notes, Weather, Music,Photos, or Reminders. These are the apps I've tested so far.With 1 of these apps open, now check your network name again. DoesVoiceOver still say the name of your network?Mine does not. Visually, my phone is still showing the name of mynetwork. But VoiceOver says, "Swipe down with 3 fingers to reveal the Notification Center. Swipe up with 3 fingers to reveal the Control Center. Double tap to scroll to top".So far, I've been able to verify this rather interesting behaviorwith 3 iPhone 6's. I'm going to try it on a 6 Plus shortly.I'd like to know if anyone else is haring VoiceOver saying thesame thing to them.Might be another call to Apple Accessibility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to [email protected].To post to this group, send email to [email protected].Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to [email protected].To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. 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