The trick to these updaters is don't VO+right arrow through them. That
won't work. You gotta tab. I know, in the world of the mac, unlike
Windows, that isn't very common to do, but in this case, you have to. Then,
hit space bar on the buttons, not the return key. I know. It's kind a
messed up, but it does work last I tried.
Chris.
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From: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: something to push adobe to make their applications accessible
Interesting twist. Of course I would guess you would have to show that
you really did experience harm from their problematic updater rather
than just the potential of harm. I just tried doing the updater by
downloading it from the Adobe Flash web site and it seemed somewhat
usable. It downloads as a disk image, I open that up and find the
updater app, open that up and it asks about how to handle future updates
with a couple unlabeled radio buttons but the descriptive text is to the
right of each one. So I pick one and continue and after a bit it
finished. You do have to quit Safari or the updater will complain and
stop. Of course once it's installed it still doesn't make the content
generated by Flash accessible. This was on OSX 10.10.3.
CB
On 4/14/15 11:48 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Even if the technology may put your computer at risk for data theft
because as a screen reader user, you can’t access the updater through it’s
application?
On 15/04/2015, at 1:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hmm, usually the web lawsuits I've read revolve around lack of access to
a particular service or product and not around a particular technology.
So if the Target or United Airlines web site was inaccessible because of
using Flash, that would put those companies on the hook for choosing
their internet technology poorly, not Adobe. Not sure outside the states
but I think US private sector doesn't have a requirement to make any old
web site/technology accessible although the circuit courts are split on
whether the ADA applies or not. Two cases were dismissed in the 9th
circuit on April 1st (Netflix and Ebay) because neither company has a
physical place. I think that's too narrow but I'm not a lawyer.
CB
On 4/14/15 8:46 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Hi All,
I was doing some house cleaning and saw a flash player image opened in
my disk utility. I wondered what the hell the flash player image was
doing there, though I hadn’t opened a disk image for a year or so. Then
I checked whether the updater was accessible. No go. There are several
critical updates since I last installed it, not knowing where or which
site incorporates flash. However, I’ve installed a plugin to deny flash
any playing since it’s just not accessible.
Then I started turning wheels in my head and thought maybe a good way to
get adobe to make their flash accessible, or at least their setup/update
interface is to sue them for no accessibility, on the ground that screen
reader users cannot access the critical updates through the alerts we
are given when they are available. This may put computers at risk etc
etc, but the point is not to make money (which i doubt in any
perspective is possible on such a case) but to spotlight the fact that
they have NOT made their flash component accessible, or any other as a
matter of fact.
I know flash is in decline, but it still exists around. And I don’t want
my system to be unsecure through an opening I have no control of, due to
its inaccessibility.
Open to discussion
Best regards,
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