Hi Myrna and others. I saw a very handy tip posted to Twitter indicating that you can take any of the Apple Watch models they have in store, and tell Siri to turn VoiceOver on. Cool that you got to play with it fully VO-enabled. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
> On 24/04/2015, at 9:20 am, Myrna Votta <myrnavo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City. I > really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, > because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to > be able to experience Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that > the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could > try Voiceover. She had her colleague look for it and it was found. > Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the > screen. I also had siri open the settings app for me. The watch was the > 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most > of the talking watches all of us have used. The atmosphere in the store, as > in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult > to hear. However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. > I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than > the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger. The sales woman said > that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch. I did > try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the > leather loop band. Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the > leather loop, I didn’t I did, however, like the melanise band because it > felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light. I loved the design of the > watch and the feel of the glass. Now, For me “to order or not to order, > that is the question." > > > Myrna > >> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch. I'm going >> to try it when I get mine. >> >> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the >> Safire Diamond. >> >> Kawal. >> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport >> model; so I have both sizes on order. But I want to cancel one. >> >> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel. >> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life. >> >> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need >> to do on the watch. If having to actually type on the watch, it may >> be better to have the 42mm. >> >> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size? >> >> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications. It will be >> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to >> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc. >> >> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually >> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take >> your iPhone out. >> >> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft >> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly >> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information. >> >> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in >> the background if its kept at a low volume. I use ear buds on the >> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the >> iPhone. Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are >> in an important meeting. >> >> One commentary I read really made sense. It said that the Apple watch >> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly >> handling notifications. It will make it easier to process these >> notifications. I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10 >> or 20 pending notifications. >> >> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown. You can use it to >> scroll through different functions and applications. >> >> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay. >> >> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side >> of the watch. >> >> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in >> the store. David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using >> VoiceOver. >> >> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it >> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit. >> >> Best, >> Mika >> @pyyhkala >> >> >> >> >> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: >>> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our >>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches. >>> >>> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band >>> types and the two watch sizes. There are demo watches kept in a drawer >>> built into the table. There is a trick way of opening the drawer. >>> >>> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands. >>> >>> Leather bands. The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather >>> bands. I have owned high end leather goods. The sides and surfaces are >>> finished in much the same ways. I have done leather and harness >>> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands >>> feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather. >>> >>> One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands. I >>> personally would choose a different band style because I never liked >>> that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I >>> could tell by handling the demo items. >>> >>> The sport band is very sport ready. It feels very smooth, sort of a >>> cross between rubber and metal. A wearer could sweat up a storm and the >>> band would remain impervious. Sorry, can't recall its color >>> >>> There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure. >>> This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my >>> wrist around my head or anything exciting like that. This band is >>> silver in color. I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against >>> my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it. I am not >>> over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an >>> Apple provided band. >>> >>> I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad, >>> even broader than the larger Apple watch. The Apple watches would look >>> great on those. This type of watch in a slightly different >>> configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch. >>> Don't sneer. I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille >>> watches about the same size. >>> >>> I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the >>> customers. Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are >>> hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me. >>> >>> The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker >>> than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There >>> are two buttons on one of the sides without the band connectors. The >>> round button is the one that acts as the Home Button. I forget what the >>> rectangular button does. These buttons are eminently tactile. There is >>> no mistaking there shapes if you have finger sensitivity. >>> >>> The price did set me back a bit. By the time I save for the watch, the >>> next generation will be ready for roll-out. I wonder what a creative >>> jeweler could do with a band for that kind of watch; or what could be >>> made for one of the tiny Apple devices, like a Nano? Interesting >>> possibilities. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18-Apr-15 07:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly >>>>> tedious. I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too. I would >>>>> only advise getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've >>>>>> subsequently hit the cancel button. >>>>>> >>>>>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the >>>>>> things I'd use the Watch for anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through >>>>>> my email on said Watch like I can on the phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to >>>>>> be not worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> B.A. Business Information Systems >>>>>> >>>>>> RMIT University >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>>>>>> It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am >>>>>>> going for an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so >>>>>>> I will have the perfect occasion to really test it out against my >>>>>>> initial opinion. If it really doesn't fit my needs, I can always >>>>>>> send it back via the local apple store. it really bogs down to >>>>>>> battery life for me. But I'm sure next generations will get much >>>>>>> better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to >>>>>>>> the 14 days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it >>>>>>>> as others have said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within >>>>>>>> easy reach and earpods around my neck. I don't like the way the >>>>>>>> blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO and just don't see >>>>>>>> how having something on my wrist is really going to make that much >>>>>>>> difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do >>>>>>>> understand it though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided >>>>>>>> to take a look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, >>>>>>>> but not sure what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've >>>>>>>> seen. It was hard to tell much because they weren't able to demo >>>>>>>> voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and thought the stuff I >>>>>>>> was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I have >>>>>>>> fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go >>>>>>>> ahead and pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, >>>>>>>> because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when >>>>>>>> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in >>>>>>>> shelling out the extra $200. 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